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SAY, WHO IS RAVAN FOR GUJARAT – GUJARATIS ?

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Whom do you believe as Ravan for Gujarat/Gujaratis

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  1. Gandhi says:

    Ravan is definatly “Narendra Modi” … Gujarat people wake up!!! open your eyes and think for the bright future …..

  2. Gandhi says:

    I agree Ravan is “Narendra Modi” Do not vote for him he need to be out from politics…. I would prefer some other leader for my Gujarat… who cares about people and who has good backgroud history….very imporatant to open everybody’s eyes and not to forgive Modi for anything ……. Think about other countries people they dont select leader with such backgroud history why Gujarat people want to laugh at them selves by voting Stuppid Modi…????

  3. Mitesh Vora says:

    Dear Gandhi

    U said Modi is the RAVAN. Can i know your profession? Whatever step that man is trying to make, the opposions n media is trying to show it in a wrong manner or depicts it in some different way. We all know in there has been few things happened with gujarat in his lead,but why people are just being stick to it? Cant they see the other stuffs. It was a past n we should try to forget it assuming nightmare.

    What do u know the progress the GUJARAT has done in last 7-8 years? If it has been a nation, it could be the 67 Richest country in the world, which is ahead of many european n asian countries.
    The growth in the power ,pharmasutical and petro chemical sectors has been tremendous since last few year. Gujarat is exporting around 45% of this entire india in this segment.
    Who has held the summits in gujarat till now? who has attracted the so many investors in gujarat? He is the person who taught the value of time to the govt officers n forced to let them work rather just sitting on the bunch of files.

    You are telling that Modi is RAVAN. Can i know from you, who is the next person to lead Gujarat n is such Powerful who can fight with the dispute of opposion n still make the progess???
    I am not paid to write this message, but this is the feeling that i want to convey to the all viewers. Dont vote for any party..just try to vote for the PERSON WHO IS GOING TO LEAD GUJARAT. Thats it…..N this poll is going to decide the destiny of gujarat.

    I will say all persons who is creating problems in the path of success to the gujarat, they all r RAVANS….

  4. Gandhi says:

    Mitesh,

    Think with peace of mind and you will know why Narendra Modi is Ravana!!!! i am completely aware of what i have said and i do have support behind that but i think Gujarat people needs to have vision from blind opinion…. By the way opinion and professions are not related so you dont need to know what i do!!! For me chance is everything everybody gets a chance in their life and Modi did too but he failed so lets move on …. hire someone else to lead our nation…

  5. Gandhi says:

    Mitesh,

    One more thing Gujarat had done progess based on people and their hardwork dont relate that with politics… Pollitics can not lead people to do such act… I give all credit to Gujarat people not to
    “Modi”…… I think you first needs wide range of vision to see Pros and Cons… when i know what you said only one mistake??? that was the reason for ahmedabad had curfew for 7months and over 50,000 people were affected …. its not a small mistake … see other countries they would have fired that person right away…. think and learn!!! Do not argue!!!

  6. Gandhi says:

    Mitesh,

    i think you are very agressive person!! who doesnt want to listen the truth!!! and remember truth is always bitter….. so well thats the fact!!! I am not sure you are getting paid to do that or not but this website is for open comments where we can say anything we wants do not try to cover up “Modi” from your side!!! otherwise thats for sure that you have been hired to do that as we know “Modi ” can do that …… thats just part of his personality… Anyways i am a part of gujarat’s public and public listens to public first rather than listning to the “Overstated Leader”

    Sorry i have to hurt your feelings but i still believe that Modi is the Ravana….

  7. Gandhi says:

    Hello everyone,

    I think this time “Congress” should win because what ever they have done within 2 years bhajapa couldnt done it in 10years…..

    Give congress more 5 years and the india will be better country to live in!!!

  8. Gandhi says:

    One biggest visual evidence is him getting nervous and walking
    away from a interview with Karan Thapar, if he is so right why not face truth with truth!
    He needs to go! for sure.
    Another evidence, he is backlisted by the United Nations. The UN is neutral, with there
    investigation they have concluded that he had a lot of participation w/ riots.
    He is not for the people of gujarat and gujarat, he has claimed he has not spent
    a minute on his image! offcourse he has not, cause how much time is he going to need
    to justify his wrong doings anyway! Therefore he IMO he has actually said, I dont have enough time to spend on the truth! to improve my image to admit my wrong!

    Jai-Hind

  9. Mitesh Vora says:

    Dear Gandhi,
    We all know how neutral the UN is as far as US is concerned. so i dont want to go in that area.
    Now if u r comparing the matter with Karan Thapar issue, then why dont u look @ Rajdeep Sardesai’s interview where the whole world was there not only he? I can only say that he was confused in answering english n looked nervous too on that day.
    Can i know who is the next person in congress in gujarat who can take his position if he/she comes to lead it? See man…i am aware of all situation n again its my perception in the matter i am replying you.so may be it can differ from others. In the centre i am in the damn favor of congress, but as far as state is concerned, he is the best person to lead.
    I can see from your all reply you are still sticking to the 2002 case. If it is the way then man forget abt future n just try comparing what had happened not what will happen….

    Let’s poll decide who is the best then???

  10. Hardik says:

    Interesting thread folks!

    8 messages from Gandhi and 2 from Mitesh. Debate has become quite hot! Sounds interesting! Sorry Friends- Gandhi & Mitesh, seeing this much interesting debate going over I just can’t refrain from adding my 2 cents to this thread.

    At a first glance it seems that Gandhi is being paid to write against Modi (lol!!) because when Mitesh stopped arguing Mr. Gandhi was still busy drawing Modi as Ravana! No hard feelings please. It would have seemed similar to anyone who read this conversion!

    My two cents – Gandhi & Mitesh:

    “A team of Donkeys led by a Lion can defeat a team of Lions led by a Donkey!” Nepolean Bonaparte has said this thing. We, Gujarati people, are a team of lions and certainly never want to be led by a Donkey so better we go ahead with Narendra Modi which consitutes a team of Lions led by a Lion.

    I don’t think of any face who can lead our great state Gujarat except Narendra Modi as on date. Also it’s certainly not like we don’t have other good alternative available so we have to support Modi.

    Gandhi, you just need to understand the difference between Mahatma Gandhi and Sardar Patel and everything would be so easier for you to digest then. Don’t just cry taking riots but consider a lot of other fabulous things had ever been done during Modi’s duration as a CM of Gujarat.

    Gujarat is still a safe, sound, prosperous, no 1 to invest and highly rich state. Gandhi, for your kind information, Gujarat has overtaken the fastest growing state’s place from Maharashtra during Modi’s tenure. It’s not like that Gujarat’s people have become so powerful in a flash. They have been so powerful since ages but needed a strong leader like Modi. So I am sorry to say I can’t agree with you and vote for Congress which is just a bunch of people wandering around for power and money considering only minorities’ problems and blindly opposing all steps taken by ministry as their regular agenda. In fact they don’t care for a lot of problems faced by majorities in just arguing in tandem for the problems of minorities!!

    Please don’t involve media as I am dishearten to say that nowadays media has just become a group of people who are solely interested in increasing the TPR of their news channels and so by their bank balances. You know media has already failed forecasting election results for last couple of times, regretted over news that they published in hurry! and now not trustable anymore. If Aishwarya Rai comes back from France to her home in India it becomes news. If Shahrukh Khan changes his underwear brand it becomes news. If Rakhi Sawant is known to be already married, it becomes hot news. Well, who cares for this! Has this ever made any difference to us? In fact now news channels have become 24 hours backwas so they have to keep finding crap news all the time, scheduling interviews with celebrities or people in limelight, ask stupid questions to interviewees and try to make the interviewees feel embarrassed, ashamed in front of all the world! When a person like Narendra Modi walks out from the interview, Karan Thaper feels like winning a Noble prize!! A very ignominious practice that is started being followed by every news channel. God knows why there is no ban on things like these perhaps it’s an adverse effect of democracy.

    UN is neutral! Go back in history and watch out for a numerous cases of partiality implemented by UN where majority of the decisions or ideas implemented by UN are in favor of US and UK. It’s world known that UN is no way Neutral. Why are you so prone to believe what UN has found out about Gujarat riots and Modi and not what majority of the Gujarati people have to say about that! Consider examples of Afghanistan and Iraq where UN had nothing to say because that goddamn riots were led by Uncle Sam!! Poor UN :-(

    “reason for ahmedabad had curfew for 7months and over 50,000 people were affected”
    I am sure if you come out of your negative attitude toward Modi and try to think neutrally, you, like millions of Gujarati people, would get to know who started the riots! I can be from the people who can offer his second cheek to have a slap on it after having it on his first cheek like what Mahatma Gandhi has said but definitely not someone who can stay still waiting for the fire brigade to come when his house is on fire or waiting for police to come when being banged by someone on my head or waiting for social workers like Tista Shetalwad to come when my family members are dying of hunger and hopeless without shelter. In all such cases I believe I must stand up and do the needful immediately. This is what actually had been done!

    No state of India has a powerful CM like Narendra Modi as on date. Accept the truth and think out of box.

    For the upcoming elections, I am sorry to say without being a bit speculative Narendra Modi is going to win and rule for next 5 years. Let me say congratulations to him in advance!

    Congress folks, please create a leader like Narendra Modi first and work hard for making your line big rather than snatching your hairs to make Narendra Modi’s like small. Simple as that!

    Jai Hind, Jay Jay Garvi Gujarat.

  11. ashok patel says:

    well done hardik well done. sent percent agree with you.

  12. Anil Jeeyani says:

    Hi Gentlemen,

    first of all, Happy New Year

    why i say this because i feel good
    why i feel good because of i am having good time
    why i m having good time because of my present living environment is good
    and that only because of the place where you are living, is giving worth to have all and that becomes true only when you are in developing ambience which leds the current topic…

    isn’t it ?

    good points arise from previous debate and all people should know about this.

    i don’t wanna spent even my 2 cent but mine feelings towards this debate :)

    well, as honestly, i am not much aware about the politics and such a thing but able to judge well.

    i know that MODI has done well for the gujaratis
    i do not know about who were responsible for the riots and mishaps done till.
    because i can see the progress but cann’t see the people behind these all bad activities.
    i would like to trust on things which i can see and i should advice you too :)

    as per the MODI issue, he is the best ruler till now that gujaratis got. you can clearly see the state of the gujarat state among all states. i should not need to discuss all those already been discussed.

    progress cann’t be done with one hand. what if people are giving 100% and they do not get support by the system. what if system behaves well to people but people do not want to growth. you can see at present what happens to US. system is well but people are lagging behind by others. so it’s combine achievement that gujaratis have got till now in every area. IT’S COMBINE EFFECT OF PEOPLE AND POLITICS.

    so no way to say MODI as “ravan” as per my concerns and I DON’T WANNA GIVE DAMN IT who says what.

    actually MEDIA is acting like a RAVAN. now we can not trust on the media. they are there becuase they wanna NEWS (Not Effective, Widely Sucked) . because we have the lots of people who still believes that MEDIA gives healthy informations. even sometimes NEWSPAPER is acting up which drives the people on wrong way. so there must be some steps towards theses RAVANs.

    and i can just say who is RAVAN but i can not do anything to remove RAVAN ANTAK from the society so itself it is a RAVAN.

    “a real ravan inside all men.” :)

  13. Prakash Mangukiya says:

    Hey .. Mara Gujju bhai ooo.

    Its quite nice to see that all youngster are showing interest towards country, politics and all that… Rang De Basanti..Generation awaken.. thats sounds good for the bright future of our great nation India.

    Here, i wont just focus on “Nirmal Gujarat”, “Vibrant Gujarat” or “Garvi Gujarati” thats bcoz Gujarat is on right tract, i would like to have debate and think about Hindustan.

    I want to see other state like Gujarat, in term of Economics, Technology and Safety and Infrastructure. All this credit goes to Mr. Narendra Modi, and of course Hardworking Gujju bhai.

    Everybody is against Mr.Modi , becuase..

    “agar log tum pe ungli utha rahe hai, to samjo lo ki, tum tarakki kar rahe ho..”

    its like that.

    Vote for Modi !!

    I do believe that he gonna make this time too, and he will win and rule the govt, Gujarat only will lead the India, representing to the world.

    Narendra Modi gonna be Prime Minister soon.

    - Jai Hind

    Prakash

  14. Cool says:

    Brothers,

    What about the people maimed & killed in the riots? What about justice?

  15. Rahul says:

    Hey cool

    Listen

    Court will do justice.

  16. Gandhi says:

    Dear All,
    Just wanted to i am public voice i am not being paid by anyone to write … usually truth is hurtful and thats the pain most of people is feeling and fighting about!!! well i wanted to say what i felt like because its open for public voice… If i dont believe something is right then i have right to point it out as Indian Citizen….

    Thanks,

  17. Gandhi says:

    I think Modi’s cheap tricks proves that he is in fault for lots of things …. His cheap tricks for say bad things about congress is the proof that he is playing cheap …. if he was right he would have played with his strong points … while he doesn’t have strong points he is saying all bad things for congress and everybody else…. i really think he is the “bull sheet ”

    i am not favoring anyone else but i am completely not favoring Modi for sure …. i dont know but i still think Gujarat people is not capable of saying truth on his face !!! Gulami no jamano gayo !!! Gujarat people still Modi ni Gujami kareche … as you know Gulami karnara jeva murakh koi na hoi”

  18. Hardik says:

    Gandhi,

    Are you Gujarati? I really doubt on that now. :-D

  19. Hardik says:

    Gandhi,

    I recently got this email. This may help you finding good reasons to vote for Modi :-) Do read please.

    Let us together make this as a ground work for the path towards power of the Party which has only India in its heart for elections 2009!When we, the citizens come together, nothing will stop us from making India a ferocious Eagle whom no one will dare challenge! Jai Hind
    Jai Garvi Gujarat !

    Economic and Industrial Achievements

    Cargo handled by ports in Gujarat in last 6 years: 5917 lakh mts (2945 in prev 20 years)

    Rs 50967 crores sales tax in last 6 years, (Rs 49611 cr in prev 41 years). No hike in taxes!

    Octroi Abolished.

    Revenue deficit decreased from 7200 cr in 2003 to 343 cr in 2006.

    Employment through industries saw a jump of more than 400% compared to 2002 Oct!

    Road development worth Rs 4783 Cr in last 6 years ( Rs 3484 Cr in previous 41 years!)

    302 investment proposals to the tune of Rs 1,72,000 crores – 84% of these proposals implemented or are under active implementation process.
    Ahmedabad is now a mega city and several world-class projects have been put on the fast track including the Sabarmati Riverfront Development and Bus Rapid Transit System.
    Percentage of man-days lost in Gujarat due to labour strife is just 0.52% – the lowest in the country.
    Modi’s relentless efforts helped setting up two LNG terminals – one by LNG Petronet at Dahej and another by Shell at Hazira, operations commenced!
    The Planning Commission had set a target growth rate of 10.2% for Gujarat compared to average of 8.2% for the country; Gujarat achieved a growth rate of 15% in the 1st yr

    Since last 3 years, development expenditure is more than the non-development expenditure in Gujarat , which is an unusual phenomenon
    Gujarat ranks No. 1 in The Economic Freedom Index as per the research conducted by The Rajiv Gandhi Foundation. Modi No.1 Chief Minister, thrice consecutively in five years in India
    Educational Achievements
    Number of seats in technical institutions have more than doubled in last 6 years.
    Modi deposits each and every gift/souvenir received by him in the government treasury for the cause of girl child education Within a span of 41 years, his 13 predecessors had deposited a meagre amount of Rs.4.55 lacs, whereas the present Chief Minister has deposited Rs.287.37 lacs in a period of 5 years.
    In 2006-07, the dropout rate of girl child has dwindled to 3.68 from 20.81 in 2000-01. Vidyalaxmi bond of Rs. 1000/- given to girl students who take admission to the 1st std and 8th std. The girl receives the amount of bond with interest on completion of std 7th and 10th respectively. This ensures higher retention rate.
    11 new universities, 400 new colleges, 1.25 lakh new teachers, 38,000 new schoolrooms.
    Campaign for imparting English education.
    Fortification of food with folic acid. Due to these and other reforms, the number of children suffering from anemia and night blindness have decreased
    Agricultural achievements
    The state is now also known for roses, strawberries, organic products and above all bio-diesel.
    108% hike in horticulture production in last 5 years

    Annual growth average of Agricultural GSDP in last 6 years has been 12.87%,(3.74% in previous 10 years)
    Yet another initiative unique to Gujarat is the Krishi Mahotsav. The Agricultural Festival is a knowledge sharing rendezvous of the farming community, a month-long event that brings together the farming community, the government officials, the scientists and many more connected with agriculture.
    A snapshot of Krishi Mahotsav 2006
    Guidance by agricultural scientists to 14,50,655 farmers.

    Personal counselling to 6,74,416 farmers and Guidance by APMC to 1,66,615 farmers.
    Distribution of 1,42,711 Agriculture Kits and 1,36,773 Horticulture Kits
    Distribution of 1,00,000 Animal Husbandry Kits and 98,827 Kisan Credit Cards
    Implementation of All-Village Employment Scheme in 10,172 villages.
    Vaccination of 48.8 Lac cattle and Agricultural sowing organized in 18,719 villages
    Energy Achievements
    Increase in the plant load factor, decrease in T&D losses.

    Biggest CNG and LNG infrastructure in the country.

    Gujarat emerging as petro-capital of the country
    Gujarat now provides 24 hours electricity to all its 18000+ villages. 1st of its kind in India .
    State electricity board which had a loss of 1932 cr in 2003 , now had a profit of 180 cr !

    Wind power installed capacity which was 119.49MW till 2003 is now 568.49MW!
    Water Achievements
    Number of villages depending on tankers for water came down from 4054 in 2001 to 185.

    • Linking the villages with a State Wide Water Grid.

    • Interlinking of 21 rivers of the states.

    • Near completion of Sardar Sarovar Project with benefits of water and electricity reaching 500km away from the dam.

    • Creation of 2.25 lakh new water bodies by constructing check-dams and farm ponds.
    Other Achievements
    Almost 1000 Gynecologists provide free services to antenatal mothers on 9th day of each month.

    67 Evening Courts started since November 2006. 1, 16,000 cases have been disposed off!
    Gujarat has made e-Governance functional in all its 141 municipalities. All 14,000 gram panchayats have been made e-grams. Lesser corruption
    Gujarat is the first state to implement the unique concept of river interlinking
    Constitution of Chetak Commando to contain terrorism.
    Freeing illegally held fishermen languishing in Pakistan jails
    Implementing the Gujcoc law to make the police force more effective,
    Enacting law to check forceful conversion.
    Setting up all-women police station in every district.

  20. Jay Gujarat,

    Vahala gujarati bandhu, jo tamara progress joye to farithi narandra modi ne shatta uper lavo..

    congress and other chila chalu party ne gujarat ma thi bhagadi do…

    kesubapo e manas ne puru english bolta aavadtu nathi ne gujarat ni gadi joye che…

    Narandra modi is the best… please vote to mr. modi…..

    Ek Sacho Gujarati..
    Jay Gujarat

  21. Mitesh says:

    Gandhi…
    Dont worry…u keep continue…u just keep trying to satisfy YOURSELF by bluffing few words about Modi. i really doubt you about being gujju.
    let me repeat prakash’s statement.
    “agar log tum pe ungli utha rahe hai, to samjo lo ki, tum tarakki kar rahe ho..”

    SO dont worry at all. just keep pointing Modi either by UNGLI UTHA KAR,YA FIR UNGLI KAR KE. I am happy as Modi is progressing so as gujarat.

    U please vote for congress, let them realize their existance in gujarat also…hope they will get couple of seats (Shit as well..hehehe)

  22. Gandhi says:

    Mitesh

    If i am not a ” Gujarati ” then i wouldn’t care who is the next Gujarat’s Minister!!!! So your first statement is wrong ” Hu Gujarati j chu” … But anyways right or wrong is not related to any language or any religous factor…. Again dont differenciate people like “Modi ” Does!!!!! He also bring Muslims and hindu a part !!! Even during his campaign!!! Thats very bad!!!!

    If They would have blamed me for that then i would have appologized in public for such act !!! but Modi never did ” Because of his EGO !!! I really think we dont need leader to do ” Gulami ” how Gujarat people are doing for “Modi” we need people who can lead us !!! not make our emotion and trust worthless!!! Well its important for me to let you know that, i am really concern about people is getting wrong impression for just say anything against “MOdi”

    Well i dont believe that he had done anythink special… India is making progress Nation Wide and Modi or anybody else can do the same thing if people approves from the Parliament……. So i dont even give any “DAMN” Credit to that person…..

    I know people likes to do “Gulami ” After 100 years has been passed but not they are doing “Gulami” For politicians like ” Modi” …… I hate to see that in my nation again!!!!

    I know i will be hurting lots of peoples feelings by saying such things… but i am standing up for the truth … Elections are near so modi is only saying good things ” Election Statergies” …….

    I am very highly educated person !!! I dont believe what other people thinks thats right !!! I believe on evidences , History of their act, i know modi is black listed by lots of countries … because they are not differenciate by nationality or by religion…..

    Truth Hurts!!!
    Will see how modi does in the election !!! and if you regrate then its your loss !!! because i am very far from Gujarat now !!! As you know people are still made at lots of stuff modi did !!!

    I know its hard to stand by my self !!! because everybody is keep arguing but truth never changes though i will !!!

    Jayhind!!!

  23. Haresh Chaudahri says:

    Dear Mr Gandhi and all netizens,

    Today only I could find this site and went through all the discussion. Hardik and Mitesh have kept the Gujarat’s stand rightly. So Thanks to both of them. NOW… Mr Gandhi, as you said this site is open for all…just think and revisit the diologues till now on the web…except yourself everybody is in favour of Modi…

    Let me correct you on your point that the state has progressed because of people and not becuase of politics… Mr Gandhi, This Modi has made Gujarat’s all villages linked with power supply and that too 24 hours uninterrupted power… Dear brother this only work also can make Modi win the election… Modi on the inaugaration of this Jyoti Gram project had told that we will complete the project in 1000 days….And by the end of 998′s day, the project was completed…. thousnads of poles (more than 56000) lakhs of kilometeres electric wiers …all these tasks could not have completed in 1000 days if Modi was not there.

    I am working in development sector, do you know Mr Gandhi that in year 2002 we had more than 70 tankers only in Kutch district for water supply? In all across the state, we had more than 800 tankers for water supply…everyday the villagers were provided water through tankers…one can imagine that this everyday actually speaking is once in a while!!!!

  24. HB says:

    Dear All,
    First of all we need to understand that Mr. Modi is not Gujarat. As a educated person whe is really interested in progress of gujarat can never support Mr. Modi.
    I dont think that whatever good think we are enjoying is given by modi and all bad things given by Congress.
    We can have some facts from the ground that we need to remember before supporting Modi and his Govt.

    -Curruption
    If Modi is a God. why he is not doing anything for curruption. In all Govt office it is a tradition kind of thing to pay money for Cha-Pani. At least modi has seen curruption of Traffic Police
    -Higher Education (after 12th all seats become payement seats)
    Now it is too dificult for all middle class people to send their children for higher education like engineering becouse Modi’s govt has given full permission to owner of self-financed colleges to sell their education.
    -No big industry came in gujarat in last 5-6 years.
    we are viewing the progress of gujarat just because it was started before 10 years. Gujarat is progressing by the rate of 10% per year so the actuall progress started long back and Modi hasn’t play any role for this.
    - Modi is politision. he is saying that give the work of ramsetu project to guj govt. we will finish it without damaging the actual Ram Setu.
    I think, before doing false claim modi need to solve basic gujarati problems like big holes in rode, gutter problems in each city… i can have long list.. even every body can think about it.

    Here i m agree with Mr. Gandhi that an educated gujarati can not blindly support Modi.
    We generally getting impressed with some task (like explained by Haresh Chaudhari) but we don’t think in detail.
    I want to ask mr. haresh chaudhary that
    (1) how many new villeges conected in that project?
    (2) when the proposel for the project came
    (3) was the project started from the beging and completed in 998 days or some work done by earlier govts ?

    So finally I think that we should avoid biased thinking.
    We should not think for ourself only.
    (1) in gujarat still more than 30% peaple are illetreate (http://www.ssamgujarat.org/Literacy_Rates(booklet)/general_observation.htm)
    (2) thausands of young, talented, educated young people un employed in gujarat (http://indiabudget.nic.in/es2003-04/chapt2004/chap104.pdf)

    Please Mitesh, Hardik, Haresh Chaudahri, Prakash Mangukiya and other biased gujjus. think in broad sence.

  25. kadia hasmukh says:

    R-RAHUL GHANDHI
    A-ALL CONGRESS
    V-VOTE
    A-0000
    N-NARENDRA

  26. Hardik says:

    Dear HB,

    No state is perfect but Gujarat seems to be standing far ahead from others. We are not blindly supporting Modi. Learn to look at bright side of the things.

    No political leader can become Ram and in fact who expects that is not an educated person. Count positive vs negative. If positives are high than negatives then you can at least rely upon that person who has been worrying about the state except his power and party. Who in the Congress party seems to be a better leader than Modi? No one.

    **Curruption
    – Right from our independence and the first ruling government of Gujarati people, corruption has been a major issue for all political parties. You must be knowing that during Modi’s tenure he has been trying a lot to reduce corruption and sarkari babus’ manmani and that is the only reason why Modi is not favorite among other corrupted ministers, Sarkari babus and his party as well!!!

    Things like corruption will definitely take time to go away and it’s not mere Modi’s responsibility to vanish it completely. Think who does the corruption – traffic police, police, government officers. Most of them are common people like us but they are damn selfish but have nothing to do with any political party. Look back in the history. BJP has been having far more clear image than Congress and other parties in the matter of corruption. This is true not only in Guajarat but also nation wide.

    **Higher Education (after 12th all seats become payment seats)
    –This is not a bit true. Gujarat is having more than 10 Government Engineering Colleges where higher education is absolutely free. (around rs 800 per semester). Self finance colleges definitely charge high and that’s why they are self financed!

    HB, have you ever been to Pune/Blore? Cities like them have more engineering colleges than that of total of whole Gujarat state. But no goddamn engineering college offers free education. These are the institutes who offer degrees to the rich students just for the sake of it and emptying their pockets by taking a lot of money. You perhaps would be knowing that Gujju guys who secure 40% to 45% in HSC opt to go outside Gujarat and take admissions in such colleges in Karnataka, Maharashtra etc just for the degree!!

    **No big industry came in gujarat in last 5-6 years.
    Being in IT industry I can give you a few names that makes your claim false. During Modi’s tenure IT giants like TCS, Microsoft, Cybage have started their operations in Gandhinagar. Modi has sent out invites to all the IT majors to start their operations in serene and prosperous state like Gujarat and offered them land in SEZs even. Many of them have responded positively and you will see good results in near future. This is just an example and I am sure if you go ahead and TRY TO LOOK AT BRIGHT SIDE, you can find other such cases in other industries.

    **Modi is politision. he is saying that give the work of ramsetu project to guj govt. we will finish it without damaging the actual Ram Setu.

    – You are right. We need a good politician and strong leader like Modi to progress, keep pace with the growling world and fight against bloody fool congresses, lalus, meghas etc who otherwise sale our country. Remember the SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST from Darwin. If we don’t get a robust leader like Modi, Gujarat will be no longer No 1 state in India and people like Lalu, Megha, Sonia, Karan Thaper will keep bugging Gujjus by drawing the worst image of the state worldwide by their ill words against Gujarat and their sucking media channels.

    MY POINT IS TRY TO LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THE THINGS and HAVE POSITIVE ATTITUDE. The minacious situations will again be up if no party gets clear obvious majority and will have to work in fear which we are witnessing at national level. Dr Manmohan Singh cannot drink a glass of water without permission from Sonia Ma’am and other parties!!! Why? Because Congress doesn’t think of running India without support of other backwas small parties which shamefully identify them altogether as UNION!!

    Think of Modi in place of Manmohan.. Wow! Things may have been much more different!!

    Jay jay garvi Gujarat and Jay Hind!

  27. HB says:

    Dear All,

    Thanks for accepting some of my comments. I think being a gujarati we need to think and discuss any thing just on solid facts. As i have given some facts in last posting, i hope you have read them and thought about it.

    Being a gujarati, I am intrested in great progress of gujarat and want that gujarat shuld be able to have competttion with US, Japan. Gujarat have caliber of it but something is going wrong so we are laging.

    Whenever we say that gujarat is 1st, or in top five. we need to think about we are compering our self with other states of india. If we compare ourself with Bihar and UP, obviously we found ouself great. But i think we need to compare ourself with any state based on Proper statstics.

    I dont like mentality of some people when they support somebody, they just look his positive side and give other suggestion to keep POSITIVE ATTITUDE. I can not do like this becouse when we want to judge anybody we should think in both the side. POSITIVE as well as NAGATIVE.

    We have election in near future and this election will have great effect in the future of gujarat. if we select wrong person or wrong party then in futute we need to repent.

    Dear Hardik,

    I am not expecting something from you as you are IT guy. Why u try to prove Modi as only leader of gujarat. We have leaders with us who can lead gujarat in better way compare to Modi. Why you give wrong arguments of my Questions.
    For the same questions do you have answer ?
    - **Curruption
    Its correct that Curruption is every where but what Modi and his Govt did to reduce it. You think that this is not Modi’s responcibility then i would like to ask who is responsible for it ?
    As per my information we have a special dept to reduce Curruption known as ACB(Anti Curruption Buro). This comes under the State Govt. The responsibility of ACB is to catch currupt officer. ACB set trap to catch currupt people. But In the tenure of 5 years no body knows “HOW MANY CASES FILED BY ACB ?” As a CM of gujarat what he did to reduce such curruption ?

    –**Higher Education (after 12th all seats become payment seats)
    Yes, we have more than 10 Govt colleges. I just want to ask that “WHEN DID THIS COLLEGES STARTED ?” When such colleges started, poppulation of GUJ was not 5.5 crore. Can u think that nos of seats in these 10+ colleges sufficient for poppulation of 5.5 crore ?

    –**No big industry came in gujarat in last 5-6 years.
    I m also IT guy and as we dont have enough scope in gujarat i need to stay away from my home.
    and second thing that you have wrong information that Microsoft has started its operation in GUJ. Do u know when TCS started ? who many person working in Cybage ?

    SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST:
    - Here its true but who is fittest and who need to be fittest. This is the basic question we need to ask our self that how fittest we became in last 5 years.
    - I think we become fittest only in media and posters other wise the real condition is not good as it looks becouse of false publicity.

    You can think about following facts about gujarat and find out How FITTEST Gujarat IS

    ———————————————————————————–
    I think we also need to consider following things seriously before giving our vote.

    Debt:
    -Current Debt is more than 71,354.03 crore.
    -The state government’s public debt has increased by Rs 14,260.03 crore, to Rs. 71,354.03 crore, during the period January 31, 2005 -January 31, 2007.
    http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Gujarat-sinks-deeper-as-debt-hits-Rs-71-000-crore/128359/

    Helth and related sectors:
    -As a IT guy who is posting such comments might not visited the rural part of gujarat where people are poor and just depend on PHC (Primary Helth Center) or Civil Hospitels. I request all reader of this site to visit any of your nearest Govt Hospitel/ cenetr before election. You will know what Modi had not Done which we expect from him.
    Pls Visit: http://www.nfhsindia.org/pdf/GJ.pdf for further data and know where we stay.

    False Encounter Case:
    we need to think that why some IPS officers are in Jail ? Why such senior officers fasing such a big case. Do we really expect this kind of things in Gujarat?

    Econimic Difference:
    What Modi did to reduce gap between Poor and Rich. In gujarat I think only few % of people is testing fruts of the progress. Other Big part of society can not enjoy the progress.

    Octroi:
    -If Guj govt want to remove this Octroi then “WHY MODI TOOK 5 YEARS TO REMOVE OCTROI AND REMOVED JUST BEFORE 1 MONTH OF ELECTION ?”

    Jay Gujarat and Jay Hind

  28. Hardik says:

    Dear HB,

    All of the points above are general issues and I don’t agree on not supporting Modi for any of those reasons. That’s what I wrote in my comments. No matter what party is ruling these issues will always be there. But you can make the difference between who is supporting them and who is trying to curb them.

    You don’t have any reason not to support Modi because the issues you counted are really general and exists since ages. For most of them Modi is not the reason behind. I must repeat my statement that TRY TO LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THE THINGS. You can refer to one of my comments I posted some time back to look at what Modi has done for Gujarat.

    IT companies in Gujarat have started their operations only after giving full guarantee from Modi government for support. And I heard yet many others have acquired lands in SEZ and soon set off. We can always go back to our homeland after that. Yes Microsoft has started sales operations already as per the best of my knowledge. And TCS too during Modi’s tenure only.

    You know Keshubhai who doesn’t speak Hindi well, English is far away from his reach. Do we want that kinda leader?

    Or you know Shankarsinh Vaghela who can commit anything for money? Do you remember Khajuraho case? Do we want that kinda leader?

    Modi is the best option for Gujarat as on date. You have to be in the system to change the system. Modi is certainly doing that. Now no one can reap the fruits on the other day after sawing them. For getting fruits it is a must to wait patiently. Modi is busy making Gujarat more vibrant and shining. We must support him to bring about drastic changes in all worst scenarios.

    Think man.

  29. Amit Patel says:

    ASATYO MAHETHI PRABHU PARAM SATYE TU LAI JA.

    In 1999, My friend Niravbhai and me was discussing about Kandhar Plane Hijack. I was blaming Bajpai Government for making terrorist free. I gave every bad word to them as I could. Then Niravbhai asked, “Imagine that your dearest love ones are in that hijacked plane, what will be your stand? I could not tell anything.

    I am also in favor of looking at the bright side. But have we ever asked someone who has lost their love ones in the riots 2002? Have we ever even try to feel their feelings? They were not terrorist. They were killed because of they were Muslims!!! Do you all think that they were terrorist? No, Certainly not. Many of them were future Dr. Abdul Kalam. When we Gujarati come out of these kind of blindness of religion? Do we really follow Hinduism? Is it Hinduism that kills innocents? I strongly against killing of innocents.

    Why should not we talk about 2002? Why is it past? If there is a development by killing people, I don’t want development. Oh Rama, The killer of innocent people is worshiped in my Gujarat. One will say that Modi did not kill directly. When you are in power, not to stop killer is equal to participate in killing. Bajpeyeeji could not help telling Modi even if they both are from BJP, “Modi, Raj Dharm Nibhavo”

    My dear Gujjus, think yourself by putting your hand on your heart. If your parents were killed during that riots, what would be your stand on Narendra Modi? Why life of your parents is important, why not others? Development is not everything my brothers and sisters. Human life and humanity comes first.

    When father of Lord Rama killed Shravan even if unknowingly, he had to pay for it. Even if He was father of Lord, even if he did it unknowingly, even if he also developed Ayodhya State, he had suffered because of curse of parents of Shravan.

    Seeing silver line among dark clouds. Please don’t disappoint Gandhi and HB.

    SAVE HUMANITY BY NOT VOTING NARENDRA MODI.

  30. Hardik says:

    Hey Amit,

    I never wanted to bring up this point in discussion as it hurts too much but now as you already pin pointed that, I have to say something about that.

    Why are you sympathetic towards Muslims killed in riots only? Man, what about Hindu public killed in that Sabarmati Express Coach? They were burned alive!! What can be the extent of cruelty than that? Why don’t you have any sympathy for them? Who compelled Hindus to start the riots?

    Everyone knows we Gujjus are generally peace loving people but we certainly reflect when we are hurt. Look back toward history. No riots were started by Hindus. We only responded. What could be the worst than that you don’t feel secure in your state and your country? You know the Muslim Ghetto areas in cities like Ahmedabad, Baroda and Surat where Hindus afraid to enter in daylight even. My God!

    What did you expect Modi and Gujju people should have done? How would have you reflected if your loved ones were in that coach of Sabarmati Express?

    We Gujju people never hesitated sharing our bite with others whenever needed. Take examples of Kargil or Earthquake or even Tsunami. But what have we been getting in response? Peanuts or Bullshit! We have always accepted the existence of any other communities in our state. Muslims, Parsis, Shikh all are welcome! But what when we start feeling insecure in our homeland? You know during the raid made by police during riots, cops collected rocket launchers from Juhapura area? What they were there for? You know in areas like Khanpur, Juhapura, Shapur where the kinds Jihadi public live, they have Pakistani flag on their homes. Why? Is this the way to show integrity and patriotism towards the place they are living in? Name the notorious dons having underworld connection in the history of Gujarat state – Rashid Latif, Salim Hathela, Fazlur Rehman, Dawood Ibrahim, Abu Salem, Sohrabuddin and the list goes on. Hey why isn’t there any Hindu name we recollect at all? Do you have you any answer?

    You have any idea what the Muslim children learn in Madresas? The Mullas fill them up with hatreds towards Hindus and Hindustan right from childhood. Their preachers order them to produce as many children as they can warning them that more people needed to fight the battle against Hindus!! Ultimately they poor children who don’t have any idea about religion or ethics start feeling that they have born on the earth to fight and kill non-Muslims only.

    I have Muslim friends and I never have had problems getting on well with them till date. Why you know. Because they are all educated, they know what is good and bad for them. They have gone to schools and colleges instead Madresas. But unfortunately not all of them are like that. The people who indulges into riots and have fun in them are really a few but they inspire others to do that and wash their minds. And parties like Congress is always ready to take advantage of them. As long as anyone, no matter who is, a Muslim or a Christian or a man from any religion, readies to respect Hinduism and believe in live and let live concept, we don’t have any problems otherwise….

    You please don’t vote for Modi and wait the whole Ahmedabad or Baroda to be Juhapura. :-)

    We can’t do that man, sorrieeeeee!!

  31. Himansu shah says:

    I don’t understand one thing of INDIAN media that they are only point out negative points of Gujarat. In this year, according to BUSINESS TODAY servey Gujarat is No.1 state in investment which hold’s more then 21% of investment done in INDIA!! They didn’t emphasis on this news on their chennel. In the same period of time when one child is kidnapped in Surat,all the media shows that news continuously 2 days and asking modi to resign!!!!!. The People of Gujarat knows that what is going on in Gujarat who is right and who is wrong. one more thing I would like to say that yesterday I watched gujarati news they are asking about election to the people who belongs to small villages. One news reporter went to one farm and asked to a farmer that who will win this match of election you can’t believe this but farmer firmly reply that Modi will win. Reporter say’s what’s reason then he told after 5year’s first time I have got water for my crop in summer.Even reporter was suprised with his answer because he believed this guy didn’t know anything about election.

    Now you people decide who deserves winning……..

  32. Hardik says:

    Himanshu,

    You are absolutely correct. I second your opinion. English news channels and newspapers especially have been proving hell for Gujarat state and Gujarati people for last five years. They have left no stone unturned in drawing ill image of Modi and Gujarati people in front of the country and world.

    If they only want masala kinda absurd news to keep their TRP high then there are total 28 states and 7 union territories in India. I can’t think of any reason except they are not happy with the progress of Gujarat and Gujaratis or they are being supported by Congress UPA governement for doing such irrational and unreasonable things.

  33. Himansu shah says:

    Hardik,

    That’s why only Gujaratis are aware about Gujarat progress, nobody else. If INDIA wan’t to become a superpower then they have to accept Gujarat developement model which is growing more then 11.5% every year and is also greater then china. Media has to inform people about Gujarat’s progress instead of past stories.We have to think about future not for past……..

  34. JAYESH PATEL says:

    For all kind of RAVAN’S-internal and external,

    Only one RAM-Shri NARENDRA MODIJEE is enough!

    Don’t look at RAVANS, Go with RAM!!

  35. Amit Patel says:

    પ્રભુ સદવિદ્યા ના અમ હ્રદય સંસ્કાર ભરજો…

    Dear Hardik,

    I would like to say that many others and myself also DO have sympathy for who are victims of Sabarmati Express Coach.

    Let me tell you that terrorists don’t have any religion. Do you think people like LTTE, MAO, ULFA and so on, who are involved in killing innocents, have any religion?

    WHOEVER KILLS INNOCENTS HAVE NOT ANY RELIGION.

    Next, We demand to punish who were involved in that Sabarmati Express Coach. Beyond that, we also feel that reform them while they are in jail. Let us learn ourself and teach them also to control one’s own evil which is inside in I would say most of all. God and evil is in one’s mind. No evil is always evil. Maharshi Valmiki, Jesal Jadeja, Jobanpagi all were terrorist in their earlier life.

    We are in favour of punishing Ravans whoever they are. We are in favor of punishing them who were involved in that Sabarmati Express Coach. We are in favor of punishing them who were involved after that as well. I would also like you to favor to punish all Ravans. But, I would also like to point out that please make sure that innocents are not punished.

    ” સો ગુન્હેગારો ભલે છુટી જાય, પણ એક નિર્દોષ ને સજા ના થવી જોઇએ ”

    There is a development if there is peace. There is peace if there is justice. Let us pray to God for peace, prosperity and justice for all.

    JAI HIND.

  36. D patel says:

    I read all comment all Gujarati are fighting with each other……
    read this and fight against them.

    Please read below a very biased Associated Press article (that appeared in Washington Post) and a response to that article. Since AP article can appear in any news media, it is important we provide a fitting response by way of comments (on web), letter to editor etc wherever you see this article appear. ( a sample response is given below)

    When inquired about this with Jack Stokes of Associated Press at New York, he said he has not heard of any complaints. When we lie down and keep quiet, then it becomes accepted. Please write an email to jstokes@ap.org, info@ap.org and letters@washpost.com. (Ph Numbers: Jack Stokes: 212-621-1730, AP India Bureau: 91 1123074001)
    Many native cultures including ourselves are extremely naive with how these things work. It is very systematic destruction of other culture and traditions that was perfected over time. They know RSS is the only credible organization that challenges assault on Hinduism. By neutralising, nay demonising it, they took away the challenge to the missionary agenda. Look at history, how this demean and demonization is followed by destruction. Like Nazis who told Germans at first Jews are not pure Aryan race and second class citizens and then they are no different from pigs and then they can be slaughtered like pigs. People do not know some of the equipment used in concentration camps was the very equipment used in pig slaughterhouses. People like Wendy Doninger who writes so degradingly and demeaningly have a very sophisticated agenda. By claiming themselves as Harvard educated they legitimize themselves and then systematically destroy by demean and demonize. There are many likes Sam Dolnick who graduated from seminary schools and get themselves implanted into media and other public service organizations to continue this kind of efforts. Gandhi ji saw thro’ this and that is why he called missionary activity as practised by evangelists as the deadliest poison that ever sapped the fountain of truth.

    Unless Hindus understand these forces and unite to counter them, we will be simply doomed. Many times people parrot senseless statements, nothing will happen to Hinduism. When you question what was Afghanistan, what was Pakistan, what was Bangla Desh and the North East and what will be Kerala and AP in a decade or two, they then say what can we do. People blame Gandhi ji for passivity, but Gandhi ji fought all his life against injustice, he only asked fight without violence because an eye for an eye leaves both blind.

    READ CIRCULATE WIDELY. ASK EVERYONE TO WRITE TO jstokes@ap.org, info@ap.org and letters@washpost.com TO COUNTER THIS KIND OF GARBAGE. CALL Jack Stokes: 212-621-1730, AP India Bureau: 91 1123074001.
    ======================================

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120701573.html?sub=new

    AHMADABAD, India (AP) – In the narrow alleys where
    Muslim families cowered from murderous Hindu mobs, the
    survivors still fear one man above all others.
    Narendra Modi’s bearded face stares from street corners,……………

    ==================================================

    Sample Response to the above article.

    I am appalled that a journalist from well known media such as Associated Press has not done his homework in writing an article. It looks as though this journalist succumbed to the sections of Indian media that is biased. Here are misrepresentations in his article:

    1) What is his basis that 59 Hindus were killed when the train car bursts into flame. So, why were people convicted for gruesome act? So, is Indian judiciary a farce?

    2) In the riots that ensued, how many riots have happened all over the world. What about riots in Los Angeles when African Americans took up on Asians. What about Pakistan and all over the world. Now, how many were killed in the riots? There were Muslims killed 790, Hindus killed 254, wounded 2500 in all and missing 223. Police killed (in first 3 days) 61 Hindus and 41 Muslims. There were 40,000 Hindus in Hindu relief camp. So, who killed rest of Hindus?

    3) “RSS was influenced by German Fascism”. I challenge Mr. Sam Dolnick to provide the basis for this. Until I came to US three decades ago (from India) I have not even heard of RSS. But I know more about RSS than Mr. Sam. Please read the history of India. RSS is in response to the brutal history of Islamic conquest that American Historian Will Durant called the most bloodiest in the history of mankind. When Ali Jinnah called the Direct Action Day, thousands of Hindus were killed which was also responded by Hindus. Just see in Pakistan today where the population of Hindus which stood at 10 million in 1947 has come down to 1.7 million at present, while the muslims in India rose from 30 million at 1947 to 150 million. Half million Kashmiris Hindus were thrown out of their state and staying in squalid camps for last 12 years. Around 19,000 died due to Islamic terrorism. Does Hindus have any rights? Would Sam care to speak for the dyings. Perhaps, if one is not a Christian or a Muslim, he is a sub-human that can have little right to self expression or self protection. After all, any revolt or rise for African American slaves was suppressed with the utmost thoroughness throughout Western Civilization and Hindus expressing themselves have to thoroughly suppressed.

    4) If Mr. Sam covered the last or even before Punjab Elections, has he ever cared to raise the issue of 3000 Sikhs (three times more than Godhra) and perpetrated by current Congress leaders. Union Minister Kamal Nath roasted alive two sikhs right in front of Lok Sabha. My friend, Sam, this is political based killings. If there is truth in Mr. Modi’s indifference to suppressing the riots, it is only aftermath of a brutal incident before that.

    India has generated shameless journalists who think that Hindu bashing and suppressing majority will give those accolades and make them look great people. Just in last three years under the vote bank politics thousands of innocent people (mostly Hindus) were killed by Islamic fundamentalists encouraged by shameless vote bank politics. When Mumbai train bombings selectively killed Gujarathi businessmen, the Central government was concerned if police will be harsh at squalid Muslim quarters looking for suspects. This Government is so concerned for hard core terrorists and criminals such as Afzal Guru and Sohrabuddin but not the terrorist victims. Does Hindus life matter or is there any value to it? But who is Sohrabuddin, here it is my friend:

    “In the late 1980s, Abdul Latif was the underworld king of Gujarat. Later, he became Dawood Ibrahim’s business manager in the State and was one of the criminal dons to make what now seems to be the seamless transition from organised crime to terrorism. Latif was a suspect in the Mumbai blasts case of 1993; the RDX and other explosive devices for that operation landed, remember, on the Gujarat coast.

    “In November 1997, Latif was killed in an encounter with the Ahmedabad police.

    Many of Latif’s cohorts were put under watch. One of them was his driver, apparently responsible for, in one daring move, hiding a huge cache of weapons meant for terrorist groups. This was part of the consignment that had arrived before the Mumbai blasts of 1993. Latif was under surveillance so his driver had hidden the arms in a well in his (the driver’s) native village near Ujjain.

    The driver eventually faced over 50 cases, including some under the National Security Act. He was arrested, at various stages, by the Gujarat and the Madhya Pradesh police, but avoided conviction. When not facilitating terror networks, he was engaged in extortion rackets in Rajasthan, acting almost certainly on behalf of others. His principals, the police believe, may be linked to terror-funding groups.

    The name of Latif’s driver was Sohrabuddin Shaikh.”

    So, please spare Hinduism and Hindu lives. If there are wrongs, by all means speak up. But please do not magnify one fault and ignore others. That is only way for peace for humanity.

  37. Mitesh says:

    Hey Dear Gujjus…
    Congrates to all of you.. Finally Gujarat Jit hi Gaya… So Modi is going to be CM for next 5 years… I m much happy abt hi…

    So dear Congi Lovers in this post… Now what will you do? Can we make other post for that? :)

  38. Hardik says:

    3 cheers for Modi and the Gujaratis who contributed to extend the term of their favorite robust leader Modi..!!!

    Congress even though not having left any stone unturned got upside down!! And the rebels have witnessed great defeat at all places. This obviously proves that now people of Gujarat are well aware of what is good and what is bad for them. They can’t be misguided in the name of religion or race.

    My dearr friends whosoever have been writing against Modi, I am sorry to for all of you and I have a great sympathy for the congress folks too!! I wish Congress better luck next time but only if they strive hard to extricate their party from dirty race and religion based politics and create a great leader like Modi during next 5 years.

    Moreover I am sure that you will also join us supporting Modi at the time of next assembly election if you witness Modi’s next term without any prejudice.

    Let’s wish Modi and the Gujaratis a very grand success making Gujarat more shining more vibrant!!!

    Bye then till next assembly elections!!

  39. DINESH DALWADI says:

    I am agree with you all

    but more agree with what Hariom and lalji said

    9 faces of Ravans in Gujarat are ….

    1. pollution

    2. rural urban, poor rich gap

    3. poor health infrastructure for middle class and poor people

    4. booming real estate prices(middle class can’t dare buy his house)

    5. Corruption

    6. Lethargy in implementation of liquor prohibition

    7. Media’s lack of maturity

    8. lack of IT companies

    9. weak opposition party which is not acceptable due to over all policies

  40. Dr. varun says:

    gand…. first of all u change the name u use ….. “Gandhi” u dont deserve to use this name.
    the things u r talking about modi s totally foolish….where are u from ?? and what u do in state ??
    Cant see the progress done by Mr modi in last 5 yrs ….. Gujarat gives central govt 40 000 0000000 rs every yr …. and in return if gujarat gets 10 000 000000 its just nothing for a biggest earning state ( child ) of india …. Modi has brought water to kutch and make green kutch …. aa taari congress 10 janam ma pan nai kari hake !!! MODI is a krishna of modern gujarat ….. nearlly 40 % of indias port trade s done in GUJARAT ….. we are proud of having MODI as CM …… aur tu kiski aawaz hai woh muje pata hai …. aage bolunga to sun nahi paayega …..itne ne samaj jaana MODI kya hai aur aage kya karne wala hai ……

  41. RC says:

    I’m shocked and surprised that a lot of people here have just flung mud at other folks, showing their own prejudices and esp. talking about doing violence to others…what kind of people are these? We Gujjus use the name of Gandhiji as if he’s our property, that somehow by association we will be pardoned for our sins. We’ve already seen the results of Hindu/Muslim antagonism. We should never repeat that.

    To me, the biggest Ravan is IGNORANCE, which breeds all else – poverty, prejudice, false pride, pollution, corruption, greed, violence, hate and much more.

    In-fighting will only make things worse. I would urge people to stop their hate speech and instead create a dialog/conversation and learn from each other to make things better.

  42. ajay patel says:

    jay gujarat,jay gujarati
    apada ne apada gujarat na ravan aa dharati per janmela pan politics ma ganda khela keranara,samaj ma gandaki felawanara gunda ne yuwan vay ne bagadnarara vyasno ravan che aapde aa ravanono nas karawano che karan ke aapde gujarati chhiye je aakhi duniya ma betha betha gujarat ne duniya ma ek touch na rajya tarike jowa mage chhe

  43. dk says:

    the people of Gujarat who are not going for voting. as specially new generation. if they are aware about their own responsibility and support good people then no ravan can exist against Gujarat. let we also try to support good people and try our level best together for gujarat and india..

  44. Jatin says:

    This debate is quite disheartening. I’m also surprised to notice that people from Gandhiji’s Gujrat are so Violent, so fascist. Well, Gujrat doesn’t deserve the legacy of Gandhiji. The father of nation who is admired by the world for his unique weapon -Ahmisa- derived from our Hindu Religion -is defeated none other than his own children in Gujrat. – Jatin

  45. chintan says:

    By my mind, theere is no ravan but there are lots of ravans. One of them is Megha Patkar (anti narmada) becauseof whom Gujarat has to wasted its crores of rupees and precious time. Many drought effected land and people are suffering a lots.
    Other ravan is Mrs. Soina gandhi (specially i dont like one matter thet she started to mark cross on indian coin)

  46. Ghanshyam says:

    By my mind, theere is no ravan but there are lots of ravans. One of them is Megha Patkar (anti narmada) becauseof whom Gujarat has to wasted its crores of rupees and precious time. Many drought effected land and people are suffering a lots.
    Other ravan is Mrs. Soina gandhi (specially i dont like one matter thet she started to mark cross on indian coin)

  47. Ghanshyam says:

    Interesting thread folks!

    8 messages from Gandhi and 2 from Mitesh. Debate has become quite hot! Sounds interesting! Sorry Friends- Gandhi & Mitesh, seeing this much interesting debate going over I just can’t refrain from adding my 2 cents to this thread.

    At a first glance it seems that Gandhi is being paid to write against Modi (lol!!) because when Mitesh stopped arguing Mr. Gandhi was still busy drawing Modi as Ravana! No hard feelings please. It would have seemed similar to anyone who read this conversion!

    My two cents – Gandhi & Mitesh:

    “A team of Donkeys led by a Lion can defeat a team of Lions led by a Donkey!” Nepolean Bonaparte has said this thing. We, Gujarati people, are a team of lions and certainly never want to be led by a Donkey so better we go ahead with Narendra Modi which consitutes a team of Lions led by a Lion.

    I don’t think of any face who can lead our great state Gujarat except Narendra Modi as on date. Also it’s certainly not like we don’t have other good alternative available so we have to support Modi.

    Gandhi, you just need to understand the difference between Mahatma Gandhi and Sardar Patel and everything would be so easier for you to digest then. Don’t just cry taking riots but consider a lot of other fabulous things had ever been done during Modi’s duration as a CM of Gujarat.

    Gujarat is still a safe, sound, prosperous, no 1 to invest and highly rich state. Gandhi, for your kind information, Gujarat has overtaken the fastest growing state’s place from Maharashtra during Modi’s tenure. It’s not like that Gujarat’s people have become so powerful in a flash. They have been so powerful since ages but needed a strong leader like Modi. So I am sorry to say I can’t agree with you and vote for Congress which is just a bunch of people wandering around for power and money considering only minorities’ problems and blindly opposing all steps taken by ministry as their regular agenda. In fact they don’t care for a lot of problems faced by majorities in just arguing in tandem for the problems of minorities!!

    Please don’t involve media as I am dishearten to say that nowadays media has just become a group of people who are solely interested in increasing the TPR of their news channels and so by their bank balances. You know media has already failed forecasting election results for last couple of times, regretted over news that they published in hurry! and now not trustable anymore. If Aishwarya Rai comes back from France to her home in India it becomes news. If Shahrukh Khan changes his underwear brand it becomes news. If Rakhi Sawant is known to be already married, it becomes hot news. Well, who cares for this! Has this ever made any difference to us? In fact now news channels have become 24 hours backwas so they have to keep finding crap news all the time, scheduling interviews with celebrities or people in limelight, ask stupid questions to interviewees and try to make the interviewees feel embarrassed, ashamed in front of all the world! When a person like Narendra Modi walks out from the interview, Karan Thaper feels like winning a Noble prize!! A very ignominious practice that is started being followed by every news channel. God knows why there is no ban on things like these perhaps it’s an adverse effect of democracy.

    UN is neutral! Go back in history and watch out for a numerous cases of partiality implemented by UN where majority of the decisions or ideas implemented by UN are in favor of US and UK. It’s world known that UN is no way Neutral. Why are you so prone to believe what UN has found out about Gujarat riots and Modi and not what majority of the Gujarati people have to say about that! Consider examples of Afghanistan and Iraq where UN had nothing to say because that goddamn riots were led by Uncle Sam!! Poor UN

    “reason for ahmedabad had curfew for 7months and over 50,000 people were affected”
    I am sure if you come out of your negative attitude toward Modi and try to think neutrally, you, like millions of Gujarati people, would get to know who started the riots! I can be from the people who can offer his second cheek to have a slap on it after having it on his first cheek like what Mahatma Gandhi has said but definitely not someone who can stay still waiting for the fire brigade to come when his house is on fire or waiting for police to come when being banged by someone on my head or waiting for social workers like Tista Shetalwad to come when my family members are dying of hunger and hopeless without shelter. In all such cases I believe I must stand up and do the needful immediately. This is what actually had been done!

    No state of India has a powerful CM like Narendra Modi as on date. Accept the truth and think out of box.

    For the upcoming elections, I am sorry to say without being a bit speculative Narendra Modi is going to win and rule for next 5 years. Let me say congratulations to him in advance!

    Congress folks, please create a leader like Narendra Modi first and work hard for making your line big rather than snatching your hairs to make Narendra Modi’s like small. Simple as that!

    Jai Hind, Jay Jay Garvi Gujarat.

  48. ruchik modi says:

    there was a bit tough opinion of every one rearding who is the real ravana for the gujarat. i think u can’t blame one person for that. i think the real ravana’s for gujarat from last 2-3 years be the anti-modi group for sure. inspite of there millions of efforts congress lose the election. what i am thinking at this stage is may be in the next election congress will not even do campaign for election in gujarat. Modi tought them a real lesson. may be in some cases modi is wrong as mr. gandhi explained earlier,but at the same time he is been selected as a best CM in the country for several times. everything in the world has a adv and disadvantage. what we have to see is the what are the positive side of it. and if u see the development of guj. within last 5-6 years with the leadership of Mr. Modi , i am sure that u get the correct answer.
    at the end on behalf of my alll my friends who just love Mr Modi a lot , we wish him real god time and also wish him that he continue his magic things that he is been doing in gujarat.we don’t to wish him a good luck for the next election as poor congress have not a 0.00000000000001 chance to win the election.
    jai jai garvi gujarat. ruchik modi

  49. mukesh gurunani says:

    people not supporting to narendra modi for up bringing of gujarat and gujarati are all ravans…..

  50. Harry says:

    Secularist Hindu. He has thousand voices and faces. He is also master of maya. Before you let your guards down, upon hearing his pleading, you should remember what hapened in Janasthana.

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