આસારામ આશ્રમની પ્રેસ કોન્ફરન્સ અને પૂજા નામની છોકરી(Gujarati Text)
ચંદ્રેશ વ્યાસ દ્વારા
અમદાવાદ, દેશગુજરાત
તસવીરમાં દેખાય છે તે છે પૂજા. પૂજા નામની આ છોકરી બે દિવસથી ગુજરાતી અખબારોમાં આસારામ વિવાદના ભાગરૂપે ચમકી રહી છે.
રવિવારે બપોરે પૂજાના પિતા શ્રીરામ શર્માએ અમદાવાદના આશ્રમ રોડ પર આવેલી જાગેગા ગુજરાત સંઘર્ષ સમિતિના કાર્યાલયમાં આંખમાં આંસુ સાથે કહ્યું હતું કે તેમની દીકરી પૂજા અને પત્ની શાંતિદેવી આસારામના સત્સંગના રવાડે ચડ્યા પછી ઘરેથી ચાલ્યા ગયા છે તથા આસારામના સાધકે દીકરી પૂજા સાથે લગ્ન કરી લીધા છે. શ્રીરામ શર્માએ કહ્યું કે તેઓ રાજસ્થાનના બાડમેર નજીકના નાના ગામના વતની છે. અહીં આસારામના સત્સંગમાં પોતે પરિવાર સાથે જોડાયા પછી એવો સમય આવ્યો કે પત્ની રાત્રે ઘરેથી ચાલી જાય અને બીજા દિવસે પાછી આવે ને પૂછીએ કે ક્યાં ગઈ હતી તો જવાબ આપે કે પિયર ગઈ હતી પરંતુ વાસ્તવમાં તે અમદાવાદના આસારામ આશ્રમમાં જઈને આવી હોય. પત્ની આસારામના ઉપદેશો અનુસાર ચાલવુ હોવાથી ઘરે ભોજન બનાવવાના બદલે અને ચાકરી કરવાના બદલે માળા જપ્યા કરે અને તન-મનના સંબંધો પણ ન બાંધે… એક દિવસતો પત્ની અને દીકરી પૂજા બેઉ આસારામના સાધક સાથે ઘર છોડીને ચાલ્યા જ ગયા અને સાથે પત્નીના નામે પોતે કરેલી આઠ લાખની જમીન પણ ગઈ તથા પાંત્રીસ તોલા દાગીના પણ ગયા….
ખૈર આ બધું તો અખબારોમાં છપાયું પરંતુ ત્યાર પછી સોમવારે આસારામ આશ્રમવાળાઓએ તેમના આશ્રમમાં જ પત્રકાર પરિષદ બોલાવી જેમાં શ્રીરામ શર્માની સ્વરૂપવાન દીકરી પૂજા હાજર રહી અને તેણે કહ્યું કે તે તેની મરજીથી આસારામબાપુના સાધકને પરણી છે અને તેની મમ્મી તેની મરજીથી તેના પિતાથી જુદી થઈ છે કારણકે પિતા તેણીને માર મારતા હતા….
આસારામ આશ્રમની આ પત્રકાર પરિષદમાં મોટાભાગના પત્રકારો ઘરેથી ઝઘડી ઝધડીને આવ્યા હતા કારણકે મોટાભાગના પત્રકારોના ઘરવાળાઓ ઈચ્છતા ન હતા કે આસારામ આશ્રમ જેવી ‘જોખમી’ જગ્યાએ જવું જોઈએ… ટીવી નાઈન ચેનલની ઓબી વાન આશ્રમમાં આ પત્રકાર પરિષદ માટે આવી તો હતી પણ ઓબીવાન આશ્રમમાં પાર્ક કરતા પહેલા ટીવીનાઈનવાળાઓએ દસ વખત ફોન કરીને આશ્રમના પ્રવક્તા ઉદય સાંગાણીને પૂછી લીધું હતું કે ઓબીવાન લાવવી સલામત તો છે ને? કોઈ નુકસાન તો નહીં થાય ને ? આશ્રમમાં પત્રકાર પરિષદ બોલાવાઈ હોવાથી રખેને આશ્રમવાળા ફરીથી ગત અઢાર જુલાઈની માફ્ક પત્રકારોને ધોલધપાટ કરે એમ વિચારીને પોલીસ પણ મોટી સંખ્યામાં આવી હતી. આસારામ આશ્રમવાળા સામાન્ય રીતે ફાસ્ટફૂડ અને ફેક્ટરીમાં બનતા થમ્ઝ અપ લીમ્કા જેવા કોલ્ડ ડ્રીંકનો વિરોધ કરે પરંતુ પત્રકારોને સેન્ડવીચ અને લીમ્કા તથા પેપ્સી પીરસવામાં આવી હતી!
સમગ્ર પત્રકાર પરિષદમાં આકર્ષણનું કેન્દ્ર હતી પૂજા કે જે આસારામના સાધક સાથે પોતાના પિતાની મરજી વિરૂદ્ધ પરણી છે. પૂજાની માતા પણ પત્રકાર પરિષદમાં હાજર હતી જેણે છાતીમાં આસારામ બાપુની તસવીરવાળું માદળિયું પહેર્યું હતું.
ઉલ્લેખનીય છે કે આગલા દિવસે રવિવારે પૂજાના પિતા શ્રીરામ શર્માએ એવું સૂચક નિવેદન કર્યું હતું કે મહેરબાની કરીને ઘરની સ્ત્રીઓને આસારામ બાપુના આશ્રમની પ્રવૃત્તિઓ કે સત્સંગથી દૂર રાખવી. ખાસ કરીને ત્યારે કે જ્યારે ઘરની સ્ત્રી રૂપાળી હોય! આજે આસારામ આશ્રમમાં પૂજાએ આના જવાબમાં કહ્યું કે ઘરની વાતમાં મારા પિતાએ આસારામ બાપુને ખોટા સંડોવ્યા છે.
August 11th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Puja’s father is right. Keep your wives & daughters away from this “Lampat” bapu.
Aish-Aram, his pervert son & the inner circle are sexual predators & looters .
These people must be brought to justice. Modi must not let Sect to over-power the State.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:57 am
shame on u media, dont again manipulate this case. i have seen the whole interview given by pooja bahen on tv9.she has stongly n tremendously declared that his father is big lyer. she has tremendous trust in bapuji n ashram. n so far this cold drink serve is concern, it is not a matter need to be indicate here this is what this vulgar media like to consume that y for the formality the would have served this. shame media shame. aapki juthui bate aab samne aa rahi hai. aapne ashram par jin logo ko bandi banane ka aarop lagaya tha wo hi log press confarence me bata rahe hai ki ye aapki ashram ko badnam karne ki chal hai. hame kisine kidnep nahi kiya. aur we log to ashram ke pavitra vatavar me bahut khus hai aur wahi rahna chahte hai. istarah santo ko badnam mat karo. kuch peso k liye desh ko todne wali takato se milkar aap jo aapradh kar rahe ho use sayad ye sarkar maaf kar degi par bhagvan nahi. meri baat yad rakhiye as you saw, will u gain.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:01 am
I understand the way whole journalism world is behind Asharam Ashram and Asharam Bapu. In the same way, they were behind Swadhayay Parivar and Pandurang Shashtri Athvale 2 years back.
This is good for something really wrong against society. This is the strength. BUT WHERE IS THE WHOLE JOURNALISM WORLD when they are really Good work for the whole society? Where were you when they bring silent revolution in the society? Do you go into the details and present it to the society when they have changed lives of thousands people without anybody’s notice. I appeal th the whole journalism world to do such positive work as journalists of Israel are doing.
Khai khapuchi ne koi sara karya ne society ma spread karo. kalam pakadnari ma saraswati pan prasansha karshe………………………………
My comments are not to protect anybody’s wrongdoing. They must be punished.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:50 am
Tapasvi Beta, Aap ki Age Kya Hain??? 5 years??? The way you are talking , it looks like u must be a bachha of this so called “Bapu”. He is a big chor and land grabber , Bhagwan tum ko Sadbudhdhhi de !!!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 3:51 am
Swadhyay and Asumal both are corrupt. Swadhyay has killed Pankaj trivedi and Asumal had killed mmany. Looted their unliterate divottees. Made their women, girls call girls. Both organizations leaders are having loose character and conroversial status. poor Dada died miserably and we will see the similar end of Asumal and co. God doesnt parden to corrupt religious leaders. Just wait and watch. Money and Crowd doesnt prove the faith. God is Great and history is the proof.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:56 am
This nonsense Tapaswi rawal. Go and do ‘tap’ you tapasvi, your kinda people intolerant and gheta bhaktas do not deserve internet. Your chamchagiiri comments suck everywhere on this wonderful site. You foolish people the blind followers can not see anything real. If media is bastard, you too are bunch of bastards you Mr. Tapasvi and other blind followers of greedy-lusty godfather type of so called saint. You go and pray Asaram’s photo and do all jap tap and mantras and mala and watch satsang cds
August 12th, 2008 at 4:36 am
yes akruti history has proved.
itihas ne sabit kiya hai…. ki jis jisus ko aaj duniya poojti hai use in vidharmiyo ne khile thok k ma dala tha,
itihas ne sabit kiya hai….ki jis kabirji k aap dohe gate hai unpar visiya ko rakhne ka aarop lagaya tha.
itihas ne sabit kiya hai…jis gandhine desh ko aajadi dilayi thi us ko sine pe goli khani padi thi…!
itihas ne sabit kiya hai..ke kis tarah bhagvan buddha aur mahavir ko badnami jelni padi thi.
lekin aaj bhi puri duniya in maha puruso ko badi sraddha bhakti se yaad karti hai…!
kyo? kyonki money n crowd dosent prve the faith. its god who take care all this.
August 12th, 2008 at 5:01 am
abhay n raj,
i m far more mature than you, sacchi sachhai hoti hai fir chahe kitne bhi juth bolo use badla nahi jata. tum logo ka isme dosh nahi hai. tum bichare logo ko jo bataya hai wo hi aap bologe. agar aap ashram ko corrupt keh rahe ho to ye media wale kaha dudh ke dhule hai?pese lekar logo ko badnam karna inki purani aadar hai.lekin ye duniya in bhade k tattuo pe nahi chalti.aakhir tum jante hi kya ho ye midia ke bare me?
aaj desh me jitne bhi print media aur pvt news chaanel hai we sab kiraye k tattu hai.
kya tume pata hai aaj jitni bhi privet news channel hai uske owner kon hai?
August 12th, 2008 at 5:04 am
Following are excerpts of an email sent some time back & containing
the various channel’s details:
a) NDTV: Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism.
Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because
Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in
Pakistan . Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen
Secy of Communist party of India .
b) CNN-IBN: 100% Funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches
in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates 800
Million Dollars for Promotion of its channel. Its Indian Head is
Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.
c) TIMES GROUP LIST: TIMES OF INDIA, MID-DAY, NAV-BHARTH TIMES,
STARDUST, FEMINA, VIJAYA TIMES, VIJAYA KARNATAKA, TIMES NOW (24 hr
News Channel) & many more.
Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 80% of the Funding is done
by “WORLD CHRISTIAN COUNCIL”, and balance 20% is equally shared by an
Englishman and an Italian. The Italian ROBERTIO MINDO IS A CLOSE
RELATIVE OF SONIA GANDHI.
D) STAR TV: Is run by an Australian, who is supported by St.Peters
Pontificial Church Melbourne.
E) HINDUSTAN TIMES: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since
Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration
with Times Group.
F) The Hindu: A English Daily, started over 125 years has been
recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne , Switzerland .
G) INDIAN EXPRESS: DIVDED INTO TWO GROUPS. THE INDIAN EXPRESS & NEW
INDIAN EXPRESS (SOUTHERN EDITION). Acts Ministries has major stake in
the Indian express and later is still with the Indian counterpart
H) EENADU : Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao
I) Andhra Jyothi : The MUSLIM PARTY OF HYDERABAD known as (MIM) along
with a Congress Minister Has purchased this Telgu daily very recently.
j) The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India
k) Kairali TV: It is Controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist)
l) Mathrabhoomi: leaders of Muslim league and Communist Leaders have
major investment.
L) Asian Age & Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company
with its chief Editor M.J.AKBAR.
August 12th, 2008 at 5:20 am
uppar diye gaye sabhi news channl aur print media chisten aur otheranti indian log chalate hai.jo sab foreiner hai. aaj bharat me jo christen log hinduo ka dharm parivartan katehai we sab ye news channelo ko karodo rupye dete hai taki bharat k santo ko badnam kiya ja sake,ye missoneriya bahrat me hinduo k dharma parivartan k liye har sal 18000 crore rupye dete hai. bpuji ne is dharma parivartan k khilaf abhiyan chalya hai aur bhartke un aadivasi ilake jaha ye cristen log aadivasio ka dharma parivatan karte hai waha jakar bapuji aur unke hajaro sadhak seva karya karte hai.aur jivan jaruri vastuo ka vitran karte hai sath me hi ek yaojna banayi hai ” bhajan karo,bhojan karo aur sath me roj 30 rupe pao.” jisse ye logo ko dahrma parivartan me taklif ho rahi hai aur iske liye ye missonariyo ko mil raha fund kam ho gaya hai. aur isiliye ye mediya ko crodo rupe deke bapujiko badnam kar rahe hai.ye hai sacchi.
August 12th, 2008 at 5:23 am
abhay n raj n all see my above three comment n than reply me.
August 12th, 2008 at 5:25 am
તપસ્વીભાઈ, રાજ વગેરેને મારે કહેવું છે કંઈક,
આપ બધા એક એક્સ્ટ્રીમ કે બીજા એક્સ્ટ્રીમ પર વિચારો છો. હવે હું જરા વચ્ચેની વ્યાજબી વાત કરવાની કોશિશ કરું છું.
ભારતના ગરીબ, આદિવાસી વિસ્તારોમાં ખ્રિસ્તિઓની મિશનરીઓ વિદેશી નાણાના જોરે જબરજસ્ત વટલાવ પ્રવૃત્તિનું કામ ચલાવી રહી છે. આ માટે મિશનરીઓના હથિયાર છે આદિવાસીઓમાં આરોગ્યની સુવિધાઓ અને શિક્ષણની સુવિધાઓનું ઈન્ફ્રાસ્ટ્રક્ચર.
આ જ ચીજ આદિવાસી, નક્સલ વિસ્તારોમાં આસારામ બાપુ પણ કરી રહ્યા છે. જે ખ્રિસ્તિ મિશનરીઓને નડે છે. ખ્રિસ્તિ મિશનરી સામે આસારામ બાપુની પ્રવૃત્તિઓ આદિવાસી વિસ્તારોમાં હિંદુત્વનું રક્ષણ કરે છે અને પોતાની પ્રવૃત્તિઓ ચલાવે છે એ વાત સાચી છે અને વખાણવા લાયક છે. ખ્રિસ્તિ મિશનરીઓને આસારામ બાપુની પ્રવૃત્તિઓ ખૂંચતી અને ખટકતી હશે એ વાત પણ સાચી છે અને માની શકાય છે.
આ રીતે જોતા આસારામ બાપુને તેમની હજાર નબળાઈઓ છતા પાડી દેવાનું ઠીક નથી. એટલીસ્ટ જ્યાં સુધી તેમની સામે કોઈ આક્ષેપ પુરવાર ન થાય ત્યાં સુધી તો નહીં જ. આસારામ સામેના વિરોધ કરીને આપણે હિંદુઓ આપણી શક્તિઓનો દુર્વ્યવ્ય કરીએ છીએ. દુશ્મન તો અહેલે હદીસી છે, સીમી છે, લશ્કરે તૈયબા છે, મિશનરીઓ છે, કશ્મીરના અલગતાવાદીઓ છે… આપણે આપણી શક્તિ ત્યાં કામે લગાડવાની છે.
પરંતુ આની સામે એ વાત પણ સાચી છે કે હિંદુત્વનું કામ કરનારાઓને કશું પણ કરવાનું લાઈસન્સ નથી મળી જતું. વ્યાભિચારની જે વાતો વ્યાપક પણે બહાર આવી રહી છે એ અત્યંત ગંભીર છે. આ વાતો વિવિધ રીતે એટલા વ્યાપક પ્રમાણમાં બહાર આવી રહી છે કે તપસ્વી રાવલ જેવા અંધ ભક્તો જ તેનો ઈનકાર કરી શકે. બાકી જનસામાન્ય હવે જાણી ચૂક્યો છે સચ્ચાઈ.
મિડિયા દૂધે ધોયેલું નથી તો આસારામ બાપુ શું દૂધે ધોયેલા છે? મહિલા આશ્રમોના ખેલ હવે ખુલ્લા નથી પડી ગયા મીસ્ટર તપસ્વી? હિંદુત્વ કઈ કિંમતે? આસારામના ઈન્ટર્વ્યૂઓમાં ભક્તોની સંખ્યાનો વારંવાર વટ બતાવીને નર્યો અહંકાર છલકતો દેખાય છે એનો કોણ ઈનકાર કરી શકે? પોતાને ભગવાન કહેનારા નારાયણ સાંઈનું શું?
લાખો લોકો તમારી સામે નજર માંડીને બેઠા હોય ત્યારે તમારું જીવન કેવું ઉદાહરણરૂપ હોવું જોઈએ? આસારામને આ કોણ પૂછે? સારુ છે કે મિડિયા બહાદુર છે તો પૂછે છે. બાકી કોણ પૂછે? ડોંગરેજી મહારાજ સામે કોઈ અર્ધી આંગળી ય ચીંધી શકતું ન હતું. આસારામ મહાવીર સ્વામી, કબીર વગેરેનો પણ વિરોધ થયો હતો એના ઉદાહરણ આપીને પોતાની સામે થતા આક્ષેપોને જસ્ટીફાઈ કરે છે પણ મહાવીર સ્વામી, કબીર આ બધા ફકીરીમાં જીવ્યા હતા. આસારામની માફક એસી વગર ચાલે નહીં એવું જીવન ન હતું એ મહાપુરૂષોનું, કાચની એસી કેબીનમાં બેસીને પ્રવચન નહતા આપતા એ બધા, લાલ લાઈટવાળી કાર છોડી ન શકનાર લંપટ પોતાને આ મહાપુરૂષો સાથે સરખાવે છે?
આસારામે જેટલું સારુ કામ કર્યું હોય એ માથા પર અને આંખો પર, તેમણે ઉભા કરેલા હિંદુ ઈન્ફ્રાસ્ટ્રક્ચરને પણ સલામ અને તેમની ગરીબોમાં, આદિવાસીઓમાં, ગ્રામીણોમાં પ્રવૃત્તિઓ વિકસતી રહે ને મિશનરીઓને ફાઈટ આપી શકે એવી શુભેચ્છાઓ પણ ખરી. પણ સામે આસારામે પણ હવે અહંકાર ત્યજીને જીવન વધુ પારદર્શક, સાદુ અને નિરાભીમાની તથા ઉદાહરણરૂપ બનવું જોઈએ. અને તેમના અંધ ભક્તોએ સાચી વાતો સ્વીકારવી જોઈએ. અંધભક્તિમાંથી બહાર આવવું જોઈએ.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:26 am
mrugesh bhai tamari vat sacchi che tamari nutral comment badal aabhar. pan jara mari vat pan consider karo.
atyar sudhi mediaye ashram par jetla aakshep lagavaya temathi kayo aakshep purvar thyo che?
jyare bapujiye kidhu k hu nispaksh janch mate taiyar chu ane jo koi ashram no sadhak involve hase to pote javabdar che ane fansi par chadva pan taiyar che.aam chata mediaye ek baju no nagative prachar chalu rakhyo. aavu kem?
fsl ane civil report had already been proved that both child died due to drowing still media has hide this from the public y? bapuji had decalred he is ready eny kind of investigation including cbi prob still some politicion n media neglet it n announce band y? gujrat has incured 80crore of loss due to band who is responsible for that? n most important y media is not publish or telecast the nubers of social welfare activity run by ashram if it nutral? what enmity media has with bapuji?
media r doing yellow journalism since almost one month by showing one sided biased view y?
media is taking interview only to those paid people who is ready to say something against ashram y?
let me give u n example of chindvada gurukul,
the parents of both deceased children has declare tremendously that we dont have any complain form ashram authority n we hve huge trust in bpuji. onthe contrary they consider the death as a conspiracy against ashram evonthogh they lots their childern. but media was least bother to telecast it y? bapuji ke statement ko dyan me nahi lete ashram ke karodo logo ke statement ko nahi dikhate hai aur kuch log jo pese leke bapuji aur narayan sai ko badnam kar rahe hai kyo? ek do vyakti k juthe aarop media sarakho par leke kupravhar karte hai aur wo bhi jor shore se kya ye yellow jornalism nahi hai? baki legali media kya prove kar paya hai? fsl k report ko jutlyenge ya cid ki janch ko ya bapuji ke bayan ko jinhone ne saaf kehdiya hai ki ham sabhi janch k liye taiyar hai? abtak to kuch prove hua nahi. fir bhi ek mahinese bupuke piche pade hai.virodh karna haito jao sahaalam me jaha chndola talab k pass lakho bangla desi gus gaye hai aur unko bakayada reson card aur electricity kuch agento k dwara mil chuki hai waha kyon relly nahi nikal rahe? logoko bewkuf samjta hai kya ye media?
August 12th, 2008 at 6:57 am
finaaly have vyabhicharni vato karo cho?40 varsh thi ashram aamdavad ma che su jya hajaro sadhako roj aavta hoy jene karodo logo mane che te maha purush par aava vyabhichr na aakshep aapnara loko no interview leta pahela ek samay vichar pan na karyo. mediane khare khar sacchai batavi hoy to live interview lo jaherma ane police ne sathe rakhi ne aasaram ma jo koi vyabhichar chalto hoy to ane chato karo. ane jo koi vyabhichar na male to jaherma media kabul kare ke ame yellow journalism chaliye chiye ane paisa lidha vagar media thi koi kam thatu nathi. che himmat mediama? vato karvani rehva do ava halka aakshep karva saehla che pan imandari thi sanskrity nu kam karvu to koi bapujeva maha purus nuj kam che bhai.
aame multi media no jamano che media jo santo ne badnam karva multimediano upyog kare to bapuji sanskriti nu kam karvan duniya na darek cornar ma java multi media(red light car n facility) no upyog kem na kare? jyare loko na lohi par rajniti karta netao red light car ma fare to sanskriti nu kam karva ane loko ne sacchi rah batava bapuji red light car ma kem na fare?
August 12th, 2008 at 7:28 am
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આ તમે જે ઉપર મિડિયાની સાંઠગાંઠનું લીસ્ટ આપ્યું છે એ તમે કટ પેસ્ટ કરીને ક્યાંકથી ઉઠાવ્યું છે. તમે આની સત્યતાની કોઈ ચકાસણી કરી? અચ્છા, ગુજરાત સમાચાર અને સંદેશ તો આ લીસ્ટમાં નથી. દિવ્યભાસ્કર પણ નથી. પરંતુ આસારામની પોલંપોલ તો એમણે પણ ખુલ્લી પાડી છે. હવે તમે શું આ ગુજરાતી અખબારોની પણ કોઈ આવી વાત શોધી કાઢશો શું? તપસ્વીજી તમારી તકલીફ એ છે કે તમે એક વાત સાચી માની લીધી છે કે આસારામ પરમપૂજ્ય જ છે. અને હવે તમે તમારા આ પૂર્વગ્રહને સાચો ઠેરવવા માટે, સાબિત કરવા માટે એને સપોર્ટ કરે એવી દલીલો, તર્કો અને ચીજો શોધી કાઢો છો. તમે પૂર્વગ્રહ અને આસારામની ભક્તિથી પર થઈને તટસ્થ રીતે વિચારો નહીં તો તમારા કહેવા મુજબ જેમ મિડિયા પૂર્વગ્રહથી પિડિત છે એવા જ તમે પૂર્વગ્રહથી પિડીત જણાશો. અત્યારે તમે એવા જણાઓ જ છો ઓલરેડી.
તમે પુરાવાની વાત કરો છો. તો સંદેશ અખબારે નારાયણ સાંઈના લવ લેટર્સ છાપ્યા છે એ જોયા નથી તમે? અવિન નામની વ્યક્તિએ નારાયણ સાંઈના આશ્રમમાં જે કાંઈ ચાલે છે એ વિશે કહ્યું એ સાંભળ્યું નથી તમે? શું પત્રકારો મૂર્ખ છે કે બે કલાક સુધી એ છોકરી બોલતી રહે અને ગપ્પા ચલાવતી હોય ને માની જાય ને સ્ટોરી બનાવે? પત્રકારોએ ઉલટતપાસ કરીને સત્ય જણાયું હશે તો જ લખ્યું હશે. આસારામ સામે કોર્ટમાં જમીનના અને બીજા કેટલા કેસ ચાલે છે એનું લીસ્ટ જોયું છે તમે? કોર્ટના જજોને સત્તા હોય છે કે કેસ ખોટો જણાય તો ફગાવી દઈ શકે છે પણ આટલા કોર્ટ કેસ દાખલ થયા છે તો વાતમાં આંશિક વજૂદ પણ હશે જ ને ? બે છોકરા ગુરૂકુળમાં ભણવા મૂક્યા હતા ને તેમની ચીથરેહાલ લાશ મળી એ માટે તમે આશ્રમવાળાઓ કોઈ જવાબદારી લેતા નથી ને નગ્ન બનીને એમ કહો છો કે માણસો તો ડૂબે ને મરે?
લાલ લાઈટ કોણે લગાવવી ગાડી પર એ તમે ઘરે બેઠા નક્કી કરી લેશો? આજતકની મહિલા પત્રકારને ટોળુ બનાવીને એકલી પાડી દઈને દંડા મારવા જોઈએ કે નહીં એ તમે નક્કી કરી લેશો? અને પાછા આસારામ મહાવીર સ્વામી જેવા ત્યાગી અને સહનશીલ વ્યક્તિની વાતો કરશે? ભારતમાં કાયદા જેવું કંઈ હોય કે નહીં?
તપસ્વીલાલ તમે આશ્રમમાં હજારો લોકો આવે છે અને વ્યાભિચાર નથી ચાલતો એની વાત કરો છો. પણ આસારામની આટલી ચમચાગીરી કરીને અને એમનો ઝંડો લઈને ઈન્ટરનેટ પર સાઈટે સાઈટે ફરો છો તો મને જવાબ આપો. આસારામની શાંતિ કુટિરની અંદર એમના બેડરૂમ સુધી ગયા છો? અરે એના રસ્તેય ઉભા નહી રહેવા દે તમને આસારામના બોડીગાર્ડ. શાંતિ કુટિર પાસે ઉભા રહીને જુઓ કેટલી મહિલાઓ અંદર જાય છે.પ્રમુખસ્વામીના સ્વામિનારાયણ સંપ્રદાયમાં મહિલાઓને સૌથી છેલ્લે બેસાડવામાં આવે છે. જ્યારે આસારામ આશ્રમમાં કુમળી, સુંદર મહિલાઓને પકડી પકડીને સૌથી આગળ બેસાડવામાં આવે છે એ વાત શું તમારાથી અજાણી છે? તો પૂછો કોઈ આશ્રમના અંદરના માણસને.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Suno Bhartiyo..apane Itihas ke VEERO ko dekho…
News paper published dat asram bapu is doing “meli vidhya”, “if anyone person go in his satsang….this person become addicted of satsang & attracted on him….so he is doing melivdihya..”etc…
But the truth is dat…Asharam bapu has AURA(ELECTRO MAGNETIC FIELD)..jo sabhi insan ke jism k aas-pas hota hai,uskai range 3cm to up to 40mtr hoti hai…har ek isnan me diffrent range hoti hai..AURA ki baat Hindu Dhram ki prachin Book Rigved me Bharat k rishio ne ki hai..& in present day Biotehcnolgy valo ne bhi AURA test ki theory banayi hai.Ek DOCTOR ne Asaramji ka AURA test liya aur usaki range payi 30 mtr…Ye range aaj tak Doctor ne Bahut kam logo ki payi hai…aur AURA ke graph me unhone 6 chakra appear hue the…DR. ne aaj tak sirf 5 chakra hi appeared hote dekhe hai,So if anybody comes in the range of AURA dat person attract on Bapu…& bapu can take anyboady’s negativity & also can give him postivity…,SWAMI VIVEK ANAD had The higest AURA range in the Whole World,he was the FATHER OF ALL THE WORLD…sab ke baap the vo..itana power tha uname…kisi ke samne dekh lete vo vahi pe su-su kar deta tha…unaki aankho ankho me itana TEJ & Shakti thi ke…USA me ek gori ladaki song gaa rahi thi to Swami ne usaki samane dekh liya aur vo gori ladaki boli ki me chahati thi fir bhi andar se aavj nahi aati thi aur jab Swami gaye tab mere gale me se awaz nikali..,Ek gori ne to swami ke sath sex karane ki bhi iccha jatai thi..coz she was attracted…
August 12th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Sun lo bhai YE hota hai AURA…DUM…hai aap me..??? Bapu me YE hai…
Are vo jo bhi hai..lekin DUM hai..kyo Lakkho log zukate hai unkae samane….people r nt fool, JO bapu k against he use me kahunga BETE tere me DUM hai aur tu lakkho logo ko attarct kar satakta hai TO me tere samane bhi ZUKUNGA…..aur ye AURA kese produce hoata hai..wts the secret of ELECTRO MAGNETCI PERSONALITY & SURROUNDED MAGNATIC ARE..??ye sirf Kismat valo ko hi pata hai…,jo bapu ke shishya hai….aur jo against hai usako jaan ne ka koi haq nahi hai…(AURA = Tej= Bravery= Memory= Beauty.= Power = VEERTA…MARDANGI)
August 12th, 2008 at 8:27 am
jaago hindu yuvano jago…veer bano…” virya vaan” bano..apane boady me VIRYA(sperm) ka collection karo….then i m sure nothin is possible for u in d world..
jisake sharir me me jitana VIRYA(SPERM) itani usaki shaktiya increase hogi, itani usaki
AURA range increase hogi,utni usaki personality attrcative banegi & memory sharp banegi…
“TEJ vaan ,VEER , Tandurast… BHARAT k Yuva…”.ye asaramji bapu ka sapana hai…
AUR wt r u all doin..he is d only one biggest saint in India..who r introducing us from our Ancient & powerfull Bharat & its Sanskriti,
almost news channels have western videshi owners…so westerns wants destroy our
Power full Hindu culture, Hindu sanskriti…Dont belive on media..
Apane ITIHAS me zankh kar dekho ,Dekho
Ramayana & Mahabharata…k us shakti shali veero ko sab me “bhrmcharya” se shaktiya thi vo apani yuvani tak GURU ke ashram me jungle me rahete the usake baad jab vo ghar aate the,tab tak pure Brahmcharaya..ka palan karate the aur usake baad vo veer yoddha banane ke layak hote the..now compare ur self wid arjun,bhim,bhishma,yudhishtir,all kauravs…Hai aap ese veer yoddha…? hai aap me unake jese sanskar…? hai aapko apane GURU ke prati Sanman…??
jaha jaha…aap kisi insan pe attract honge , jaha pe aap kisi ki aavaj me dum dekhenge,
jaha aap kisi me sharp memory dekhenge, magnatic personality dekhenge samaj lena usake piche .”brahmcharya= virya collection ” ka hi chamtkar hai..aur ye sab secrets
kisi ke mom-dad nahi batate…..all dat keys u can learn only from GURU…
omm…hari om……hari omm….
August 12th, 2008 at 8:39 am
thik che mrugesh bhai,
tame sach kahyu sandesh ane divya bhaskar ane gujarat samachar list ma nathi pan tame j kabul karyu k pol to tamne j khulli padi che. kai pol ni vat karo cho ashram ne gurukul case ma clean chit mali che aaj nu divya baskar vanchjo.chella pane aapyu che.page no.16.media ne khabar che k have gurukul case ma clin chit mali che. have ama kuprachar karva jeve nathi, cid ne tantrink vidhi ni sadhan tapas kari che tema pan kasu malyu nathi.media ne have khabar padi gayi che k gurukul case ma tene chalvela jutthana ni pol ghuli gai che. etle have bicharu media mo batava ne layak rahyu nathi. duniya ne have khabar padi che k bhai media pase press che te thi paisa lai bijani pase bayan levdavi bharya talav mathi koru nikdi jay kem ke kaik thay to kahe ki aa ame aana kehvathi chapyu che aama amaru kai nathi.kalam no ketlo dur upyog karvo eto tamnej aavdene.
have jyare gurukul case ma ashram ne clean chit mali ane media ni pol khuli etle vat ne badlva have narayan swami ane bapuji par vyabhivhar na aakshepo karya…..! etle fari thi public ne bevkuf banavay. baki sandesh ane gujrat k divya bhaskar hoy media ni aaakhi link hoy che je loko jane che. badha aandaro aandar malela hoy che aavu to aa bathu thaya pachi aakhu gam jani gayu che.
have vyabhichar n aaakshep lagavi ne mediae eni chelli jat batavi che. kem k hve biju kai hoy to sachu batave ne. sandesh na letter ni vat karo cho to e sacho che eni su garanti? k te sacho che. gurukul case ma je rite juttha nu chalavyu hatu te rite hve aahiya…….
ane aavin namni chokari ni vat karo cho to tamne to khabarj hase k te aasarmni samarpit sisya nathi.
aajthi char varas pahela aasaram ma te aavi hati. ane faqt thoda divsoj rahi hati e pan char varsh pehla atyare nahi eto tamne khabar hase. pan media ne te su kam batavanu k te char varas pehla aashram ma aavi hati ane te koi aashram ni samarpit sisya nahati pan ek mulakati hati.hve karodo mulakatio mathi 1-2 mulakatiyone koi lalach aapine satement aapavvu te kai midia mate moti vat nathi. media jane che k kai thase to te chokri ane ashram kutse aapdeto paisa lai bharya talav mathi kora…! baki have narayan swamina ashram ni pan tapas karvana aadesh aapya che jo vyabhichar hase to te pan same aavse. pan aaje mara jeva aanek loko ne khabar padi che k aaje media ane aamuk politiciano maline desh nu satyanas kari rahya che. baki aava tukka lagavi ne ane manghadat vato karine k mahilao pahla bese che ane puruso evato karine media lokone bewkuf na banavi sake bhai. badha jane che k ashram ma baheno ane bhaiyo alag alag bese che jem ke bija koi na asaram ma k pravachan ma loko alag alag bese che tej rite. bhai badha loko aaligadh thi nathi aaya. bapuna satsang ma ketlay jay che tv par temna satsang karodo loko juve che. loko ne bewkuf na samjo ane ek vat dhayn rako bahu kuprachar e thoda matej. hariom.
may god give you some sadbuddhi brother buy. see u again
August 12th, 2008 at 9:53 am
The fact about Swadhyay update March 2004
SWADHYAY – MOMENT OF REFLECTION
A Brief summary of some of the EVENTS.
1. In June 2000, Dada declared that; “Though up to now I was saying that Swadhyay work is God’s work, I am now asserting that I am the owner of Swadhyay work, this is my ownership”. No religious person or saint has ever proclaimed himself to be the owner of any religious or cultural activity which he might have started. In the case of Swadhyay activity, the work was started by Dada but was spread with the time, money and energy of 200,000 workers
2. Dada appointed his adopted daughter Mrs.Dhanashree Talwalkar or Jayshree, known as Didi (his brother’s daughter) as the successor to his ownership of Swadhyay activity in June 2000, thus contradicting his own preaching. For many years in his lectures he had condemned the traditional methods of “Gadee Pratha”, where a Guru hands over the leadership of his organisation to his son or daughter. In 1991-92, he had declared among his followers that he would not like any person to take over the leadership of Swadhyaya Parivar after him, but it would be guided by Amnaay, (which means constitution) which was prepared by Dada himself. As the sole successor to Swadhyay activity, Didi abrogated the Constitution of Swadhyay.
3. Two love letters written in 1995-96, first of which was written by one Mr. Ajay Joshi (a Swadhyayee closely associated with Didi) to Didi and the other written by Didi to Ajay Joshi became public in December 2000. Both Ajay Joshi and Didi are married (not to each other) for over Twenty years. Dada and Didi were flabbergasted and, not knowing what to do, took steps reminiscent of the adage; ‘king can do no wrong’ and adopted offensive attitude. Didi and Ajay Joshi both admitted that they had written the aforesaid letters but the purpose was to write a drama about the message of Swadhyaya. One can see the letters on the web site; http://www.swadhyayee.org and decide if they have anything to do with the message of Swadhyaya! In order to defend Didi, Dada started vilifying senior dedicated workers, who had been with Dada for 30 to 50 years stating that these senior workers had resorted to character assassination of Didi as they wanted power, prestige and money. Since both of them had good control over Swadhyayees, they directly or obliquely instigated their followers to resort to violence, advocated ostracisation of these workers and directed their followers not to read any explanations which they may receive from these workers or others. On such instigation, several people were beaten up in India and were hospitalised and immobilised for months.
4. On reports being published in Newspapers and Magazines, journalists and editors were threatened of dire consequences through telephone calls. In respect to Chitralekha, a Gujarati weekly, about a dozen suits were filed in different parts of Maharashtra so that the journalists and editors have to run about to defend themselves. Similarly, several false criminal complaints have been filed against former senior swadhyayees in about a dozen courts in Gujarat with a view to harassing them and to force them to appear in different courts in distant places.
5. Former Chief Justice of Gujarat High Court, Mr. B.J. Diwan gave an interview to a Gujarati Daily, Gujarat Samachar and aired his views on accumulation of wealth in swadhyay trusts and on the manner of working of Didi. He too was summoned by Dada. He was also indirectly threatened.
B Regarding collection and accumulation of MONEY
1. Dada and Didi exhorted people to donate a portion of their income for God’s work on the basis that when a man toils to earn his livelihood, he is not alone in doing so but God, who resides in him, is also working with him and therefore everyone should share his income with God. The amounts collected in this manner in India would be about Rupees 10 crores a year. The amount spent for God’s work by the receiving trusts is only in lakhs per year.
2. Dada and Didi enthused local people to donate money to cover expenses of local Swadhyay centres and (on the ground that if there is accumulation at each centre there could be bickering amongst local people) required surplus at the end of each year to be donated to Swadhyay trusts designated by them. In this manner, in effect, hundreds of centres in India became collecting centres for donations to Swadhyay activity. Through such collections, Swadhyay trusts got about Rupees 2 crores per year.
3. By not distributing to farmers interest accrued on their deposits with Madhavi Raksha Sankalpa (MRS), (a trust in which farmers are supposed to deposit Yogeshwar Krushis’ earnings,) MRS increased the amount of its corpus from Rs.1000 to about Rs.8 to 10 crores, all of which money truly belongs to poor farmers.
4. Although farmers and others look after Shreedarshanams and Vrukshamandirs, all the proceeds of these two projects are credited to trust account and no amount is spent for the needy farmers who look after of these two projects
5. About Rupees two crores per year were earned by sale of firecrackers during Diwali Festivals. No excise duty, octroi duty, sales tax or income tax is said to be paid in respect to this business
6. Artisans, small shopkeepers and farmers are encouraged to give their efficiency (service) to create wealth, all earnings of which are credited to trust account and no amount is known to be spent on needy persons who have earned this income
7. While Dada & Didi require every swadhyayee to spend out of his income for travelling, stay and other expenses while on swadhyay work Dada & Didi for themselves and their spouses have been charging such expenses as also medical, telephone and car expenses to Shraddha Trust although in their own right they have annual income of millions of rupees and assets worth crores of rupees.
C Exaggerations and MISGUIDING STATEMENTS often made by Dada and Didi and/or
Swadhyay workers. The nature and extent of such statements can be gauged from the
following:
1. In respect to application for Templeton Award, Press Notes issued suggest that 100,000 villages in India have been economically and spiritually completely transformed by Swadhyay activity. The reality is that there would not be a single village of this sort. Giving benefit of doubt, if at all there are any such villages these cannot be more than handful against the claim of 100,000
2. It was claimed by Swadhyay Parivar that, during January 2001 earthquake in Kutch, it had built 40,000 houses. Later the claim was reduced to building 6000 houses. The reality is that only building material worth about Rs.3 to 4 thousand has been distributed or paid for in respect to 4538 houses at a total cost of about Rs.1.75 to 2 crores. It is believed that the amount collected in USA, Canada and UK in the name of Kutch earthquake relief is likely to be Rs.10 crores
3. It was claimed by Dada that he was the only representative of Hindu religion at the Second World Religious Conference held in Japan in 1954 and was twice elected Chairman of the Round Table Conference. The facts are that this was a small conference organised by a society established in the name of ANANAI-KYO, a local Japanese religious organisation where only twenty people from six countries represented their sects. As for his being elected Chairman at the Conference, the official report of the society on the conference suggests that Dada had left Japan before the Round Table Conference had commenced! Dada also claimed that a well known philosopher called Dr. Compton from America was very impressed by him during the conference and invited him to deliver lectures in America offering large sums of money. The official report suggests that no one called Dr. Compton attended the conference!
4. Didi attended a prayer meeting at Vatican in relation to people who lost their lives in the attack on Twin Towers on September 11. It was claimed that she was specially invited for the occasion and was the only representative of Hindu Religion, which indeed she was not. Further, while it was claimed that she got very special treatment from the Pope, in reality she was one of a large number of delegates and had no special status offered to her. Also a word was spread that the Pope had requested her to organise the youth activities of the Catholics but this propaganda was soon withdrawn when a journalist reported that the camera caught Didi dozing when the Pope was delivering his lecture!
5. Dada and Didi had encouraged swadhyayees to compose and sing songs apparently in praise of God and Swadhyay work which also praised Dada as an incarnation of God or God himself. Didi has also endeavoured to project Dada as God. Swadhyayees are also made to believe that Didi is a Devi and everyone should accept her as such and must not question anything she says. Dada asked some Swadhyayees to write songs praising Didi!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Bhai Alpeshbhai,
Jara to vivek rakho.
Kyan mahan Jisus, Kabirji, Gandhiji, Buddh, Mahavir ane kyan Aa tincher venchi, poice ne - rajkarnione lanch aapi aapi ne Vyabhichar thi kadbadto Asumal? Bhagwan sau ne sadbuddhi aape.
Kabar chhe ne ke Jaychand? tena je na bano. Bhagwane Buddhi aapichhe teno sadupyog karo ane Andh Shraddha temaj tevi koi lalach thi mukt thao ane Bhagwan nu bhajan karo. Baki Asumal ne kadach police bribe lai chhodi deshe pan Bhagwan kyarey nahin chhode. Ravane 70,000 varsh ekchkri raj karyun pan ante kul sahit kutara na mote maryo to bapu pan 70 varsh maza kari leshe pan ante…… Jay Shree Ram!
August 12th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Veer Mard is talking about biotechnology, aura field and all these science theories… good….Just to let you know one cannot collect semen in his body. It keeps on producing and if you dont use (excrete) it, it destroys it self in the human body. This is a proven fact of science since ages. So, better be smart enough and think what exactly happens.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
“ilzam aine pe lagana fizul hai..
sach maniye huzur aapke chehre pe hi dhul hai….”
dekho ye pooja bahan ne keh diya hai ki ham aapni marjise yaha aasram me reh rehe hai,
tv9 pe diya interview dekha ho to pata chale. aakruti bahen dekho sab kuch aapke samne hai koi dhoka nahi hai.
mere guru par aarop lagane se pahele jara socho bahen……….
August 12th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
તપસ્વીજી
આપના ગુરૂ વિશે જેમતેમ લખનારાઓ પરિપક્વ નથી. હું આસારામજીની કેટલીક બાબતો ભલે નાપસંદ કરતો હોઉં પરંતુ મારે કબૂલવું જોઈએ કે ખ્રિસ્તિ મિશનરીઓ જ્યાં આદિવાસી વિસ્તારોમાં પડી પાથરી છે અને કામ કરે છે તેની સામે હું કામ કરવા નથી જઈ શકતો પણ આસારામ બાપુએ એમના આશ્રમો અને ગુરૂકુળો ત્યાં સ્થાપી દીધા છે અને એમના સાધકો ત્યાં કામે લાગેલા છે. આસારામ બાપુને હું તો મળે તો ચોક્કસ તેમના આ કામ માટે પગે લાગું. અને એટલે જ હું ઈચ્છું છું કે થોડી બુરાઈઓ નબળાઈઓ હોય તો તે તમે ઠીક કરો અને આસારામ આશ્રમના કેન્દ્રો ઠેર ઠેર એક એક ખ્રિસ્તિ મિશનરી સ્કૂલ અને હોસ્પિટલની છાતી પર સ્થાપો.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Wah MrugeshJi Wah, Maan Gaye Aap ko !!!!!!!!!!! Kya Palti Maari Hain, Aap to Bhajanlal se bhi bade “aayaram gayaaraam” hain, kabhi idhar kabhi udhar , good show , keep it up !!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 4:03 am
mrugesh bhai tamene hu dhanyawad aapu chu. tamari vaat barabar che k jo ashram ma koi burai hoy to te thik thavi joie. etlej hu kahu chu cid ane police tenu kam kari rahi che. jo koi vyabhichar k burai hase to sokkas same aavse. kem k media nu over pressur che. tethi police ane cid sadhan tapas kari rahi che. teo jarur satya bahar lavse. cm sahebe ane bapue potej nispaksh janch ni vaat kari che, aashram na ketlay loko na lie ditector test lidha che. ashram no janch ma puro support che. eto hu nai badha kahe che k ashram na sadko police ane cid n puro support aape che.
pan su tamne mediano roll suspicious nathi lagto? jara vicharo, baki aashram par aava anek aakshepo ni sant par su aasar thati hase jene 40 varsh thi potana hadka nu khatar ane lohinu pani kari sanatan sankruti ne divya banavi che.
August 13th, 2008 at 4:44 am
mrugeshji,
tamari vat 100% sachi che. hu tamne fari thi vandan karu chu. chokkas jo aasram ma koi buraio hoy to bahar aavi joie. e vat to hu nahi tamam sadhako ane bapu pote kahe che. govermente pan vaghela parivar ne purepuro visvas apavelo. cid sachi disa ma tapas kari rahi che ketlay sadhko no lie ditector test lidho che, 200 thi vadhare sadhko ni puch parach kari che. aakha aasaram ma red padi teni sadhan tapas thi che. haju pan tapas chalu che. jo koe hase to chokkas same aavse. pan tamej joi lo gurukul case ma to clean chit mali gai che. badhu loko ni same thay che. koina thi kai chupelu nathi. aasram par aakshepo thay che k temne ek ma no dikaro ked kari lidho che aaj ajay sharma e aaj tak ma intervima kidhu che k hu marjithi aasram ma rahu chu mane koie ked karyo nathi. ane hu mari mata no ekno ek dikaro nathi pan maro bijo bhai che je mari mata na sathe rahe che. mane mara guru na sanidhya ma rehvado.
aa pooja bahen no tv9 par nu interview joyu hoy to tamne khabar padat k aa local media ketlu juthhu bole che.
chindvada na mrutak maa baap no interview joyo hoy to khabar padat. temne to spast kidhu tu k amne amara samrpit bhai baheno par puro visvas che. tamne kidhu tu k aa ashram virudh sadyantra che. ane police tukaj samay ma te case solve kari diho.chata tya pan band thayu te kone karavyu? tamej nakki karo mare kai kehvu nathi, hu to kahu chu k chokkas aasram ma rehta darek loko ni puch parach ane tapas karvi joie. pan tamne hu chati thoki ne kahu chu, aa maro davo che k je ashrame lakho loko ne jivan badlu che, jya besine sahaj santi no aanubhav thay che jya sarabi no sarab ane sigater piva vada ni sagarett , lobhiyo no lobh ane krodhiyo no krodh ane vikari ni vasna chti jay che tya vyabhichar takvo e aasambhav che.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
VinooBhai,
yr study and report on Swadhyay event is Great.
I knew very many hidden facts.
Dhanyavad
August 13th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Helllo friends
I would like to say for asharam and his son only one thing that gujarat goverment have to give them punishment ………..
JAI HIND
August 14th, 2008 at 3:23 am
Akruti Vani, are you Muslim or Christian? You seem anti-Hindu. You become very happy with anything against Swadhyay pariwar or Asaram Bapu. Your sirname ‘Vani’ shows that you are Kashmiri Muslim. Now please write correct name too so that I can confirm you are anti Hindu and Muslim(or christian?)
August 14th, 2008 at 4:23 am
Unfortunately all htese so called spiritual business houses are organized under Hindu Religian programe! ans batter you other religios people dont waste time gossiping such column, they plan and act. My mail point is all these religious villains collect huge amount from innocent devotees and enjoying 5 star luxury. It should be accounted irellative of religian and sects. There are some Bapus, Some Bahijis, some Didis, Matajis, Babas. You will besurprised that some Babs are Banladeshi illegal migated muslims but they how to do this business. well, all religions are same but this sort of practice must be chalanged. God is Great and doesnt spare anyone. just wait and watch!
August 14th, 2008 at 4:26 am
news papers ni haqiqut!
tamne janine navai thase k kevi rite news paper lokone chetre che. sandesh news ma jyare koi moti company k santha jaherat aape che tyre temni jode nakki karelo chrarge vasul karvama aave che.te vat to badha jane che.
parntu aamuk divso pachi sandesh news paper te company k santha ne fari thi jaherat aapva faraj pade che, ane jo jeherat aapvano inkar karvama aave to te company k santha n badnam karvani dhamki aapeche…!
sandesh pase press che tethi te teno gerlabh uthave che. ane aa rite desh ni chothi jagir lokone dhamki aapi bevkuf banave che!
asaram bapuno case hoy k swadyay parivar darek santha pase sandeshe karodo rupiya ni magni kari che ane rupiya nahi aapta badnam karvani dhamki aapi che! ane temne dhamki pramne aava mahan santo ne bad nam pan karya che.
jago hinduo jago samaj na aa licence wada gunndao jeo khanddi kari paisa ugarave che aane politiciano, cristano aane anti hinduo jode paisa lai bharatna mahan sato ne badnam kare che. aabadhu aapdej bhogvavu padse, jago…!
August 14th, 2008 at 4:29 am
Unfortunately all htese so called spiritual business houses are organized under Hindu Religian programe! and batter you know that other religious people dont waste time gossiping such column, they plan and act. My main point is all these religious villains collect huge amount from innocent devotees and enjoy 5 star luxury. It should be accounted irellative of religian and sects. There are some Bapus, Some Bahijis, some Didis, Matajis, Babas. You will besurprised that some Babas are Bangladeshi illegal migrated muslims but they learnt how to do this business. well, all religions are same but this sort of practice must be chalanged. God is Great and doesnt spare anyone. just wait and watch!
August 14th, 2008 at 4:56 am
news papers ni haqiqut!
tamne janine navai thase k kevi rite news paper lokone chetre che. sandesh news ma jyare koi moti company k santha jaherat aape che tyre temni jode nakki karelo chrarge vasul karvama aave che.te vat to badha jane che.
parntu aamuk divso pachi sandesh news paper te company k santha ne fari thi jaherat aapva faraj pade che, ane jo jeherat aapvano inkar karvama aave to te company k santha n badnam karvani dhamki aapeche…!
sandesh pase press che tethi te teno gerlabh uthave che. ane aa rite desh ni chothi jagir lokone dhamki aapi bevkuf banave che!
asaram bapuno case hoy k swadyay parivar darek santha pase sandeshe karodo rupiya ni magni kari che ane rupiya nahi aapta badnam karvani dhamki aapi che! ane temne dhamki pramne aava mahan santo ne bad nam pan karya che.
jago hinduo jago samaj na aa licence wada gunndao jeo khanddi kari paisa ugarave che aane politiciano, cristano aane anti hinduo jode paisa lai bharatna mahan sato ne badnam kare che. aabadhu aapdej bhogvavu padse, jago…!
August 14th, 2008 at 5:08 am
Akriti,
first of all u care about ur crual people. this cristchan people y they doing religion conversation in india? ur some people are spoiling jisus name by religious conversation. whatever community u belongs other community’s people r rahter crual n tyrenat than hindu.
“vasudhev kutumbkam” is our religion slogan. we dont believe in eat drink n be marry. we belive in live our life in such way that our life become example to world. we believe that other is not other but he is my devine brother. so you r my devine sister. now shut up your mouth. n yes u r write just wait n watch. now wait how god give punish ment to those who kill people n doing religion conversation n r spoiling their own great religion.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:05 am
news papers ni haqiqut!
tamne janine navai thase k kevi rite news paper lokone chetre che. sandesh news ma jyare koi moti company k santha jaherat aape che tyre temni jode nakki karelo chrarge vasul karvama aave che.te vat to badha jane che.
parntu aamuk divso pachi sandesh news paper te company k santha ne fari thi jaherat aapva faraj pade che, ane jo jeherat aapvano inkar karvama aave to te company k santha n badnam karvani dhamki aapeche…!
sandesh pase press che tethi te teno gerlabh uthave che. ane aa rite desh ni chothi jagir lokone dhamki aapi bevkuf banave che!
asaram bapuno case hoy k swadyay parivar darek santha pase sandeshe karodo rupiya ni magni kari che ane rupiya nahi aapta badnam karvani dhamki aapi che! ane temne dhamki pramne aava mahan santo ne bad nam pan karya che.
jago hinduo jago samaj na aa licence wada gunndao jeo khanddi kari paisa ugarave che aane politiciano, cristano aane anti hinduo jode paisa lai bharatna mahan sato ne badnam kare che. aabadhu aapdej bhogvavu padse, jago…!
August 14th, 2008 at 9:07 am
news papers ni haqiqut!
tamne janine navai thase k kevi rite news paper lokone chetre che. sandesh news ma jyare koi moti company k santha jaherat aape che tyre temni jode nakki karelo chrarge vasul karvama aave che.te vat to badha jane che.
parntu aamuk divso pachi sandesh news paper te company k santha ne fari thi jaherat aapva faraj pade che, ane jo jeherat aapvano inkar karvama aave to te company k santha n badnam karvani dhamki aapeche…!
sandesh pase press che tethi te teno gerlabh uthave che. ane aa rite desh ni chothi jagir lokone dhamki aapi bevkuf banave che!
asaram bapuno case hoy k swadyay parivar darek santha pase sandeshe karodo rupiya ni magni kari che ane rupiya nahi aapta badnam karvani dhamki aapi che! ane temne dhamki pramne aava mahan santo ne bad nam pan karya che.
jago hinduo jago samaj na aa licence wada gunndao jeo khanddi kari paisa ugarave che aane politiciano, cristano aane anti hinduo jode paisa lai bharatna mahan sato ne badnam kare che. aabadhu aapdej bhogvavu padse, jago…!
August 14th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Dear Akruti Vani,
Thank you for appreciate me. It is not matter which religion you for me, but I can say that your thought is a real good a human.
THE REAL FACE OF PANDURANG SHSTRY’S –DADA – SWADHYAY
Dada said that Swadhyay does not work for money. Nor does it ask for money, or ask for any donation(s). Their most confident lie is that Swadhyay does not collect the money. The following officially amount are beleow.
Dada’s trick is wonderful. I believe that if Momand Gazani knew this trick then he would never have attack the Somanath Temple. Dada cried a lot in his speeches but never heard a hungry child cry for food, he never heard the cries of the earth quake victims or sufferers, His cry for emotion was so that his followers could go to the Swadhyay Proyog such as Matsygandha to catch fish, Vrukhsmandir for fruit and grocery and Sneh Care day centre in London for old people and claiming the many pounds from the Council. Of course his speeches were wonderful, but not for him to take any action. For him the bottom line was to make money. Please see the below.
The Swadhyay have many trusts but please see below for only six trust’s money.
1. Trust name Tatvajnan Vidyapeeth year 2004 Fixed Deposit and balance with bank Rs 64,06,12,213.50 and Bank balance Rs 53,17,255.26
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2. Trust name Sanskruti Vistarak Sangh year 2003 Fixed Deposit and balance with bank Rs 40,63,98,550.00 and Bank balance Rs 40,97,97,586.00
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3. Trust name Sat Vichar Darshan year 2003 Fixed Deposit and balance with bank Rs 6,08,01,760.40 and Bank balance Rs 51,93,990.98
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4. Trust name Jnan Vistarak Sangh year 2003 Fixed Deposit and balance with bank Rs 10,20,07,142.00 and Bank balance Rs 69,62,410.00
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5. Trust name Bhav Vardhan year 2005 Fixed Deposit and balance with bank Rs 14,70,00,000.00 and Bank balance Rs 1,50,535.25
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6. Trust name Madhvi Raksha Sankalpa year 2005 Fixed Deposit and balance with bank Rs12,07,90,000.00 and Bank balance Rs 1,19,66,228.51
August 14th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Vinubhai this is old story and not relevant. So what is trusts has money. Does any Christian discuss about Pop John Paul’s money or does any Muslim discuss about money in their trusts and institutions? So what if trusts has money. Forget this and do something creative, positive for the society.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Dear Maynakbhai
Dada said that money should not be collected and therefore every year when he got money from the Prayog he used it the same year. Are you able to say where is the Jayshree ship Cargo? This was built by swadhyayee in Porbander India in 1996 for helping the poor and needy people. The capacity of this ship was 600 tones, but it disappeared. Didi has no dare to speak about this. I must say I like Dada’s speech, but I do not understand why Dada does not put all his trust accounts in to the Swadhyay Magazine “Tatvgyan” which has been running since many years.
Akruty Vani means bitter speech. Bitter is good for health. Akruti Vani’s thought is really nice. Good for society. Some people’s speech is sweet like salesmen but his action is not good for humans. Dada’s vani is so sweet but his hidden actions are shameful. Such as Bahvnirajn Temple is not a Temple according to affidavit of Didi to the high court of Gujarat, while Dada did Pranparitishtha for this temple.
Dada said “Chhod ma Ranchhod” but swadhyees does not know this slogan was for his benefits.
CHHOD MA RANCHHOD, TEMAJ DADA NO TOD
All these Trusts are Holding Land for Vrukshmandir and Shreedarshanam which are situates of Gujarat but are Registered only in M a h a r a s t r a. The total land is about 425 to 450 acres. The lands are not purchased but have been taken from the government on a lease and from farmers. Please see the Name of the Trust and the Charity Ragister Number at Mumbai Maharastra. Why Maharastra? Why are the permanent trustees only Didi and her husband?
1. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan E-9503 (Bom)
2. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Kutch) E-10306 (Bom)
3. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Vadodara) E-10307 (Bom)
4. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Amereli) E-10485 (Bom)
5. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Bhavnagar) E-10486 (Bom)
6. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Junagadh) E-10487 (Bom)
7. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Kodinar) E-10488 (Bom)
8. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Rajkot) E-10489 (Bom)
9. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Veraval) E-10490 (Bom)
10. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Kheda) E-10995 (Bom)
11. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Bharuch) E-11226 (Bom)
12. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Jamnagar) E-11258 (Bom)
13. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Valsad) E-11259 (Bom)
14. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Mehesana) E-12473 (Bom)
15. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Surat) E-15804 (Bom)
16. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Banaskatha) E-15805 (Bom)
17. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Ahmedabad) E-15806 (Bom)
18. Vaijanatha Bhavdarshan (Somnath) E-16853 (Bom)
19. Atrey Bhavdarshan E-7695 (Bom)
20. Prashant Bhavna E-8313 (Bom)
Register Address of All trusts
Nirmal Niketan, Khetwadi Main Road, Mumbai 400004
August 15th, 2008 at 5:24 am
Dear Tapasviji,
Hari om.
I think aapana jeva sadhako e ava negetivity felavnara haramio thi door rahevu joiye. (Refer to guru gita - sthanm va tatpari tyajyet , jihva cchheda khamo yadi.)
What is fact is everybody knows and who doesn’t know - May God Bless them.
SANT SATAYE TEENO JAYE - TEJ BAL AUR VANSH - EDA EDA KAI GAYA RAVAN KAURAV KERO KANS..
Wish you all happy independence day.
or in munna bhai style
GET WELL SOON MAMU!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Hi all,
Interesting talk going on…!!! I am just 26 years old but got chance to go thru the all thicks and thins of life.
Now I am in better position and loving my country India and Hindu dharma.
“Hindu dharma is the best religion of the world so far but in the worst condition as of now”
We need to identify the root cause of it and we young generation should step up to repair our home.
I have read all things so far very well. I have been in touch of all the SAMPRADAY and their followers. Like my one
of the uncle beleives in ASHARAM way to acheive their DHARMA. My close friend loves DADA and satsang. Many
Swaminarayan freinds are there too. Also here in USA I have been in touch with many muslims, shikh and christian
friends.
Every human wants four things in life - DHARMA, KAMA, ARTHA and MOKSHA. If you notice that you’ll find every
activity is related to one of the above mentioned thing. So I have been in search of my DHARMA and MOKSHA. But it’s
really very difficult for hindu to decide which flavour is the good to achieve it. As we have so many varities and
way to achieve it.
So finally I conclude that all these is rubbish. You just need to introspect you self and work on that. Should help
other needy people witout any bias. By living simple and good life. I mean not to harras your body by doing many
fast nor by damaging body by fast food. Do every natural things in control manner. Every things are created by good
so it’s for use. we just have to use it in proper manner.
We have created so many baba, dada and bapu so far but still we are part of third world. Our country need progress.
we need to focus on being power nation. These all things are diverting us from doing this sometime. Also we should
put effort to know our HINDU DHARMA. Forget about this bapu, dada and baba..these are very tiny when you compare it
with HINDU DHARMA. So first let learn what ids hindu dharma and where we are. And then decide how can you correct
it.
It’s easy..!! Beleive me..!!
I want all of you to listen following lectures of one of the indian hindu dharma repairer.
http://www.sachchidanandji.org/searchLect.html
I am sure you would find every answers here. Not consider me as follower of somebody as I don’t like to follow. I
just listen my soul and doing things. WOrking for me….!!
Better we learn first, we found mistakes in us, correct it and after that take some wrong part of society and try to
beautify it…!!! There is nothing more than this to make your self and your god happier than ever….!!
Regards,
Jatin
jatin.pinal@gmail.com
August 16th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
i read little of this article. Mrugeshbhai is right. I would like to say that leave all this religious matter and work hard for the country. See other countries and do something. All nonsense talk. You must be aware of Olimpics. Only one gold medals after 28 years for the country with one hundred crores of strength!!!!! Shame on us. We fight with each other. Don’t believe in anything, only believe in constructive work.
I want to know why media stops writing about swadhyay pariwar? Now they are after Asharam Bapu. If they will get enough money thay will stop writing against Asaram Bapu too.
I think all are thieves but the biggest thieves are media papers because they do nothing but write against the people who are doing good thing for the societies.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Dear Jatin,
I wrote my views before i read your letter. Now I can say that young generation like you are more sensible.
I am senior citizen but in our time like 50’s and 60’s nobody were staunch religious. All this Babas, Bapus, Sants, and Gurus are emerged in last 25 years. Some of them are really good. I never believe in any of these. I am not a follower of any of these sampradays. I like to hear Morari Bapu and Sacchidandji. They have no chelas and they never misguide the people.
anil
August 17th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Dont forget that other than Hindu Relious Gurus all have their spiritual leaders, priests etc are Paid and their designations are by appointment and not by people’s love or beilif in them. Hindu Priests are known as GURU - one who throw light in Darkness or made their diciples wise enough to realize Satya - God - Conroller of this Universe. What happens in reality . . . this discussion shows. Most of the Hindu Gurus are dying for Money, Power and Fame. Some Guru loose crores in Stock market, Some spends Crores in th their children’s marriage, Some gives croes to their faverite candidates election, some supplies mussule power in riots. Just closely observe these Sadhaks - form of exploited status and puchased Gulams who has lost their identity as a common human beeing. Their inner is dead and has no real voice. See photo of this girl hardly mid-teen. what she understand Life’s existance and philosophy. So my effort is to make USE of your own inner SHAKTI which gifted to you by al mighty the supreme God. If you are favoring any one out of prejudise you become victim of Gods faith in you.
Just Think. God is Great, He loves everyone as wel He dosn’t spare anyone.
August 17th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
dekho ye Akrti vani jese log aag hindu dharma ko sikh dete he.
Akriti sayad tum bhul rahi ho hamara dharma kisi vyakti ya god k son ya kisi devduth ne nahi banaya hai.
it is spontenious(swayambhu) like almighty.it has not been establish by any people or anjal as other religion has been eatablish by either jusus or by paygambar saheb. but your tiny mind will not b able to see its greatness.
hindu people never kill people on the name of religion, he never did any religionconversation as other are doing. our ramayan is ideal for world in which both brother are fight for voluntarypoverty! this is our religion who believe in sarve santu niramaya(may all became free from all deasese n trouble) so keep quite n dont vomite poisone like a snake for our ever innocent saints n sages.
August 17th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
“jam pe jam pinese kya fayda rat biti subah utar jayegi,
tu hari naam ki pyaliya pile teri sari jindgi sudhar jayegi.”
iswar k siva kahibhi maan lagaya to ant me rona hi padega.
aaj hamare desh ko aache aur satvik logo ki jarurat hai. esa vivekananda bolte the. aur bapuji aur dusare bahut sant aaj ye hi karya kar rahe he. me 21 sal ka yuvan hu aur desh k yuvano ko ye kehna chahta hu ki aap ke jivan me thodi aadyatmikta bhi lao aur fir dekho, jo bhagvan k raste chalta hai to prakruti bhi uske sahayak ho jati hai. ye mera aapna anubhav hai. aap bhi dusaro ki ninda aur kaptat chodke din me kam se kam 5 se 10 minite to us iswar ko yaad karo jo sabke hriday me betah hai. ye hi hamare desh ki paheli jaruriyat hai. he yuvan apne jivan ko sarthak bana.vir ban.tu pasu nahi jo sirf khane pine k liye jitahe. now wake up n make your self proud with noble job n follow some spirituaality in life.
August 18th, 2008 at 8:23 am
news papers ni haqiqut!
tamne janine navai thase k kevi rite news paper lokone chetre che. sandesh news ma jyare koi moti company k santha jaherat aape che tyre temni jode nakki karelo chrarge vasul karvama aave che.te vat to badha jane che.
parntu aamuk divso pachi sandesh news paper te company k santha ne fari thi jaherat aapva faraj pade che, ane jo jeherat aapvano inkar karvama aave to te company k santha n badnam karvani dhamki aapeche…!
sandesh pase press che tethi te teno gerlabh uthave che. ane aa rite desh ni chothi jagir lokone dhamki aapi bevkuf banave che!
asaram bapuno case hoy k swadyay parivar darek santha pase sandeshe karodo rupiya ni magni kari che ane rupiya nahi aapta badnam karvani dhamki aapi che! ane temne dhamki pramne aava mahan santo ne bad nam pan karya che.
jago hinduo jago samaj na aa licence wada gunndao jeo khanddi kari paisa ugarave che aane politiciano, cristano aane anti hinduo jode paisa lai bharatna mahan sato ne badnam kare che. aabadhu aapdej bhogvavu padse, jago…!
August 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
મૃગેશ શાહ, bhai tame kaya jamana ni vaato karo cho ?
Mahavir gautam vagere e to bhart ni pathari fervi che. Laxmi no tyaag ej mahan evu magaj ma gusavi ne have te laxmi asuric forces na haath ma nakhi didhi che. challo hu english ma j lakish. maari paase tamara jevi leapy nathi.
So what i was telling was that Mahavir Swami and Gautam Budhdha by renoucing the throne and living like beggers - to achieve god was a mistake or a biggest blunder of Indian spirituality. Laxmi is considered Godess as long as its used in the right direction. But to think that Laxmi currupts and hence must be given up - was a sure shot to throw into the hands of Evil forces. And that is what happened to India in last 1000/2000 years.
Our saits and avataars always took birth in the Rich places. All the rishies had ashrams and 1000s of Cows, which was a measure of wealth in those times. Accumulating wealth and not use it is wrong - but as long as its used for the upbringing of the down troddens its great.
As per your information if Asaram bapu is doing things for other hindus - then its the best thing to do. Why do you want a Son of Laxmi to live like begger - can you explain that to me. Why should he not have comforts when he lives for the divine doing divine work ? Yes I agree that India has many saints who have advocated - renouncing the wealth etc. But then why Vivekanand went to USA ? He wanted initially, US to help India in the industrialization - but after coming here he realized how difficult it would be to get them to do that.
We have rejected PROSPIRITY in order for SPIRITUALITY - that’s mistake. Rama - Krishna - and all rishes were abundently rich. Mahavir Swami and Gautam Budhdha changed it. Its time to take back the money from the EVIL hands and use it for the “RIGHT” cause.
August 18th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Akruti Vani
shu tame muslim cho ? naam badli nakhu huh ? all mighty - god will not spare you - god loosing trust in you if you have regards for someone ???
All these are muslim talk. or at best christain. There is nothing hinduism in that. Rama, Krishna did not live like beggers as you narratte them. All rishies used to have 1000s of cows and huge ashrams. Laxmi was always
worshiped as a Power - The Shakti the Goddess. As long as its used for the right causes.
Asaram bapu is not the first Hindu Saint being maligned in last 4 yeras. It started with Adi Shankracharya - in similar murder change - even when SC said, there is no scintila of evindence, TN govt kept him in jails.
Swadyaya parivaar - similarly attacked and all media tried to project it as if its true. Reading the stories you would believe that is true.
Ram Setu - ram never existed - affidavite was made in the SC by this govt.
Tirupati - Lord Tirupati is considered the God of Seven Hills. Since there are seven hills where Tirupati temple is there. Congress govt in AP said, Tirupati temple need not have seven hill. So lets give one hill to build a Church, One hill to Build a Mosque and One to have a Tourist spot. Every month more then million people visit this temple. How big a tourist spot you want to make then that ? but there is a direct attack on Anything that is Hindu.
And now this Asaram bapu.
Hindus, not you, must change the way they speak. Instead of saying “What If ?” they must say “So what?”
Most hindus always say, what if Asaram did something wrong? what if Swadhyay parivaar did something wrong ? What if Shankracharya did something wrong ?
Stop this “What if ?” - say So what they did - if it was necessary to do in order to do the good work that he is doing - then so be it.
Unless Hindus will not change the state of their mind - These kind of attacks will continue…
August 18th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
“jam pe jam pinese kya fayda rat biti subah utar jayegi,
tu hari naam ki pyaliya pile teri sari jindgi sudhar jayegi.”
iswar k siva kahibhi maan lagaya to ant me rona hi padega.
aaj hamare desh ko aache aur satvik logo ki jarurat hai. esa vivekananda bolte the. aur bapuji aur dusare bahut sant aaj ye hi karya kar rahe he. me 21 sal ka yuvan hu aur desh k yuvano ko ye kehna chahta hu ki aap ke jivan me thodi aadyatmikta bhi lao aur fir dekho, jo bhagvan k raste chalta hai to prakruti bhi uske sahayak ho jati hai. ye mera aapna anubhav hai. aap bhi dusaro ki ninda aur kaptat chodke din me kam se kam 5 se 10 minite to us iswar ko yaad karo jo sabke hriday me betah hai. ye hi hamare desh ki paheli jaruriyat hai. he yuvan apne jivan ko sarthak bana.vir ban.tu pasu nahi jo sirf khane pine k liye jitahe. now wake up n make your self proud with noble job n follow some spirituaality in life.
August 19th, 2008 at 2:50 am
You Forget that because of Gurus or Spiritual leaders like Asumal and similar Bapus, Bhaijis, Dadas, Bapas. etc etc Hindus were Forced in to 1000 years of Slavery. Credit also goes to blind and brainless followers like you. Our religion teaches us that you always wish good for others. So we always pray God to save Hindus and Hinduism from such ‘Pakhandi’ babas and poor Hurd of ships like yours. Because we honour Sanatan Vedic Hindu philosophy and its divinity. Remember that God loves every one But doesnt Spare any Kapati.! Wait and Watch closely. Oh God, Please dont forgive them, they know what they are doing !!!
August 19th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
akrutivani its enough now just shut up your mouth. u poor people i have sympathy with u becase u r not hindu.
if u think that ur religion is great than fine i do agree with u i agree that ur religion is great. so care about only your religion ok n get lost from this sight. ok than buy
August 19th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Leaders of any religion are biggest guilty of humankind. Who have collected funds and money in name of GOD, This funds they have used for their own benefit and enjoyment. Their followers are running after them blindly not realising that they are wasting their time and money.I don’t know what are they going to do with this money when they live this WORLD.
I remember Quote from French General Napolian ” Let the world know that Great Napolian came empty hand and went empty hand.
So I can’t understand Our so called GURUS,BAPUS,DADAS and BHAI who give discourse on “How to live life” so why collect money and if you want to collect money why not distribute to needy in society.
They are children of GOD but don’t have enough food to feed for one time.
This GREAT PEOPLE talk big but nothing in practice. It is responsibility of people like us to think positive.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:57 am
every one pls read today’s 20 august newspaper on page no. 3
rajesh solanki na jutthana no pardafash khud teni patni e karyo che.
bakulaben kyarey asaramji bapuna asaram ma gayaj nathi. i aapeal to japan pathak to show this on this web site.
pls pls aajnu 20 tarikh ne divya baskar vancho jema pana no. 3 par bakulabahene khulaso karyo che.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:50 am
http://www.divyabhaskar.co.in/2008/08/20/0808200054_asharam.html
all of u pls see above link
kevi khoti rite asram ne badnam karva ma aave che te juo. divya baskar no aalekh vachi potej nakki karo
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:46 am
Thanks anil bhai. Some views about media and their strategies..!! Media is definately power but yellow jour. is part of that. After all it’s business too. Like what was the status and ethics of doctors, ministers before several years ago. Now doctors also just sometime focus on making money. And if you investigate you will find he has to do it sometime just to have 20-25 lacs to start good clinic and to earn money to balance his great effort of 8-9 years of damn study. After all he deserves it..doessn’t he! It’s his will to do social service but we can’t enforce him. Same is there every where. Only we can do is just ignore this mirch masala news and read interesting things like UPNISHAD, RISHI JIVAN, LIFE OF GREAT PEOPLE, SCIENECE BOOKS etc. If we all will neglect it, they will have to change their way of working..after all they all are making money on us. Remember one thing….
“Our over-importance inspire them to deceive with us” One should lock his house other wise any ill will person or needy or under-presure man will break it. It’s but obvious…!!!
Second thing about time frame of 50-60 and todays’:
50-60: Industrial revolution. Transition of mass from village to city. Forming of cities. Educated Persons were just following what britishers had left for us. After passing many years behind ARTH (making money and getting luxuries or etc) their inner quest of DHARMA become volcano and this bapu, dada, and gurus gets started from there. Was not that much bad but now every power ful persons are trying to show others that his SAMPRADAY is the best than others. They use all means to do this and created this chaos. NOt only that after finding fault in themselves they are hiding it and doing all rubbish things.
If you want to understand want I am trying to say…please watch the movie DAMINI. Same thing is happening with our DHARMA. Trying to hide, don’t want to improve and evolve. And that’s the very dangerous and able to destroy every things.
“Learn-introspect-correct or improve-apply and give new version to rest of the world” - That’s the DHARMA and SCIENCE.
Just to make our beloved SAMPRADAY safe and very famous, we people are putting the great DHARMA in danger and off-the track.
Era of instant mix and ready-made stuff:
We were making snacks in diwali before but now-a-days taking ready made from market. We do beleive in fast-food and ready made in everything. Not opposing it but favouring it because it gives opportunities in the market, runnig the market. And sometime help one to focus on important things. Saving time in these stuff and utilizing in good way…!! Isn’t it..! Point is this can not be applied to DHARMA and other basic things. In past people were not educated and not enough information was available. So they had to relay on some gurus and saints. Now we have all things so can’t we invest some time to know the basic of DHARMA, TRUTH and other ethics. Let’s know all things, squeeze them, take out the fruitful things from them and apply it. Like why these some idiots don’t allow to seat couple to-gather for satsang. Why some are sending young childrens to become sadhu or muni by giving them DIXA?
Why can’t you make you character so strong that if you live near to brothel, you can protect your character. First get the power and than be great by not using it or using in great work.
1) Rat tells : Oh lion I beleive in non-violenece so i will not kill you.
2) Lion tells : Oh Rat I beleive in non-violenece so i will not kill you.
second one is considered as non-violence not first one…!!!
Please ignore this if I have hurted your feelings in some way…but just represting my views. I completed learning curve, introspection, able to find problems in my self and my things….but just trying to correct myself and my wrong understanding. Trying to achieve power to do some major task for the my brothers and sisters.
So lets take a power first and improve society….!! But try to avoid doing good work under any banner…(by giving money to some SAMPRADAY). Beleive in direct action dears…!! Help some struggling student, some needy girl or oldman….!! I have lots of idea regarding this….where to spend and where not…:))
To help others and make our society and country better and better is the best way…….god wants us to do….!!!
yours,
Jatin
September 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
ચંદ્રેશભાઇ નો હુ ખરા દિલ થી આભાર વ્યકત કરુ છુ આ લેખ લખવા બનલ અને મૃગેશ શાહ ને પણ કોમેન્ટ આપવા બદલ અભિનંદન.. મૃગેશભાઇ તમારી વાત ખરેખર સાચી છે.. અત્યારે દંભ નો જમાનો છે.. કાઇક કરે તેના કરતા વધારે બતાવનારા જ લોકો વધ્યા છે.આપણા હિંદુ ધર્મ મુજબ સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા એ તેના માટે બનાવ વા મા આવેલા નિયમો નુ પાલન કરવુ જોઇએ હુ આ નિયમો કયા ગ્રંથ મા છે અને કોણે લખ્યા છે તે દલિલ નથી કરવા માગતો પણ…સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા એ સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા ત્યારે જ કેવાય કે જયારે
૧)ગામ કે શહેર થી દુર રહેતા હોય
૨)પગે થી ચાલી ને ગામ કે શહેર સુધી જતા હોય (વાહન નો ઉપયોગ ના કરતા હોય)
૩)ધન કે અનાજ નો સંગ્રહ ન કરતા હોય
૪)ભિક્ષા માગી ને જિવન નિર્વાહ કરતા હોય (વધારે મા વધારે ૫ ઘરે માગી શકાય, ના મળે તો ભૂખ્યા રહે પણ છઠ્ઠા ઘરે ના જાય.)
ભાઇ, અત્યારે કોઇ પણ સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા નથી અને આવા મળે તો મને કહેજો.. તમે અત્યારે જે લોકો છે એને સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા નહી પણ જ્ઞાની કે વિદ્વાન જ કહી શકો. કોઇ જ્ઞાની કે વિદ્વાન હોય એટલે સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા નથી થઇ શકતુ. જ્ઞાન મારે કે તમારા મા પણ હોય આધ્યાત્મ નુ એટલે કે શુ આપણે એ જ્ઞાન મેળવવાથી સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા થઇ જઇએ છીએ ?? એ જ્ઞાન આચરણ મા લેવા થી જ જીવન પવિત્ર થઇ શકે..
જ્ઞાની કે વિદ્વાન વ્યકતી જે મોટા ભાગે તેના કાર્ય થી જ અનુયાયી બનાવે છે ને નામ કરે છે.
જેમ કે સરળ ભાષા મા ભગવાન, મુકિત, સુખ, જીવન કેવુ હોવુ જોઇએ, મન પર કાબુ કરી ને ધ્યાન કેમ ધરવુ વગેરે સમજાવવુ…શુ આ બાબતો મા સરળ ભાષા મા જ્ઞાન આપનાર ને તમે સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા કહેશો ?? માણસ માત્ર જયારે પોતે દુખી હોય ત્યારે તેમા થી નિકળવા નો માર્ગ શોધતો હોય છે, અને કોઇ પણ પોતાને સુખી માનતુ નથી એટલે જ્યારે કોઇ તેને જ્ઞાન આપી ને શાંત કરે,સુખ દુ:ખ વિશે સમજાવે અને ધ્યાન કરવાવી અને રિલેક્સ કરે એટલે તે દુખી વ્યકિત સામે વાળા ને ભગવાન સમજી બેસે છે આ સંત,સાધુ કે મહાત્મા એ તો ફકત નામ થયા..
તમને જ્ઞાન ને શાંતિ ત્યારે જ મળે જયારે તમે સામાવાળા પર વિશ્ર્વાસ મુકે અને તેના શરણે જાય. મોટા ભાગ ના નબળા મન ના લોકો મા આ વિશ્ર્વાસ દ્રઢ થઇ ને અંધવિશ્ર્વાસ મા પરિણમે છે.. માનવી ને જયારે અંધવિશ્ર્વાસ હોય છે ત્યારે પોતાનુ બધુ નેવે મુકી દે છે પોતાના જીવ ની પણ પરવા નથી કરતો. તમને ખબર જ હશે કે ઘણા અંધવિશ્ર્વાસી લોકો પોતાના સગા પુત્ર ની પણ બલી ચડાવી દે છે.. અંધવિશ્ર્વાસ ખરેખર પોતાના અર્થ ને બરાબર વિસત્રુત કરે છે.. એવો વિશ્ર્વાસ કે જે માણસ ને અંધ બનાવી દે, મગજ બંધ કરી દે.. પોતાની જાત કે કોઇ ના જીવ કરતા તેના માટે અગત્ય નુ હોય છે તેણે કરવા નુ કામ… આ કામ તેને જેના પર અંધવિશ્ર્વાસ રા્ખ્યો હોય તેણે ચિંધેલુ પણ હોઇ શકે.
મારા દ્વારા વાંચનારા સૌ ને વિનંતી કરુ છુ કે મહેરબાની કરી કોઇ ના પર અંધવિશ્ર્વાસ ના રાખતા.. ભગવાન આપણી સાથે જ છે આપણા હ્લદય મા તે ને મેળવ વા માટે આપણે કોઇ મિડિયેટર ની જરૂર નથી. અને તો પણ જો તમે જ્ઞાન માટે ગુ્રૂ શોધતા હો તો ગુ્રૂ નુ આચરણ જ તેની લાયકાત છે નહી કે જ્ઞાન.કોઇ ના પર વિશ્ર્વાસ કરતા પહેલા કેમ તમે સો વાર વિચાર કરો છો ? એમજ જો અંધવિશ્ર્વાસ કરો તો કેટલી વાર વિચારો ??
ખાલી માળા જપવા થી અને કામ ન કરવા થી એટલે કે કર્મ નો ત્યાગ કરવા થી પ્રભુપ્રાપ્તિ થાય એમ કોઇ સમજતુ હોય તો તેણે ભગવત ગીતા મા રહેલ કર્મયોગ જ વાચવો રહે..