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		<title>By: Vivek</title>
		<link>http://DeshGujarat.Com/2009/06/15/surat-rape-victim-girl-identifies-culprits/comment-page-1/#comment-34837</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rape has nothing to do with the religion. It is all about illiteracy, wrong company, ill mindset, excessive exposure and addiction to pornography and sex, and no proper sex education and guidance in adolescence. As we all know that this is the most vulnerable age, and any of the above factors in this age result in RAPES and RAPISTS and all other sorts of crimes. All the people who are well educated and civilized among hindus, muslims, christians and other religions do not indulge in such cases. Cases like Shiney Ahuja are exceptions. On the other hand, all the uneducated lot or the ones affected from the factors mentioned above, irrespective of their religions, indulge in these sort of crimes. No religion teaches such atrocities and All God are one. The more we fall in for gurus, the more brainwashed we become. Just believe in GOD - THE SUPERPOWER, that&#039;s it. If we talk about gurus, even they play the blame game. No gurus says the other is better. They always self proclaim themselves as the best and all others as fake. Even there have been cases recently where gurus were found to be a part of these crimes. Sikhism says there is only one Guru - The Holy Granth Sahib - Supreme God. No human man/woman can become a guru. Even the people who go to gurus indulge in crimes. Even high society well educated people indulge in adultery like wife swinging, wife swapping, etc. So its all in the upbringing and guidance in he vulnerable age &quot;adolescence&quot; which matters. It&#039;s all in the mindset and has nothing to do with the religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rape has nothing to do with the religion. It is all about illiteracy, wrong company, ill mindset, excessive exposure and addiction to pornography and sex, and no proper sex education and guidance in adolescence. As we all know that this is the most vulnerable age, and any of the above factors in this age result in RAPES and RAPISTS and all other sorts of crimes. All the people who are well educated and civilized among hindus, muslims, christians and other religions do not indulge in such cases. Cases like Shiney Ahuja are exceptions. On the other hand, all the uneducated lot or the ones affected from the factors mentioned above, irrespective of their religions, indulge in these sort of crimes. No religion teaches such atrocities and All God are one. The more we fall in for gurus, the more brainwashed we become. Just believe in GOD &#8211; THE SUPERPOWER, that&#8217;s it. If we talk about gurus, even they play the blame game. No gurus says the other is better. They always self proclaim themselves as the best and all others as fake. Even there have been cases recently where gurus were found to be a part of these crimes. Sikhism says there is only one Guru &#8211; The Holy Granth Sahib &#8211; Supreme God. No human man/woman can become a guru. Even the people who go to gurus indulge in crimes. Even high society well educated people indulge in adultery like wife swinging, wife swapping, etc. So its all in the upbringing and guidance in he vulnerable age &#8220;adolescence&#8221; which matters. It&#8217;s all in the mindset and has nothing to do with the religion.</p>
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		<title>By: rahul.n</title>
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		<dc:creator>rahul.n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Krunal,
    Please don&#039;t waste your time on replying or debating with the elements like hari.
These castist degenerating brahmin-hinduism does create these kind of thinking. there is no use in advising them. 
people have to be educated as society and class to do away with the feudalistic tendencies of religion. especially asian religions which are tentatively fighting for their survival aginst rationalization of society thrrrough modernization. they all will put up their ugly resistance. 
    you have only limited choices. try to understand what kind of society breeds such idiotic and dangerous ideologies. wasn&#039;t it american weapon&#039;s industry that oversupplied germany with dangerous weapons which eventually drew themselves into the worldwar.weren&#039;t the riots in gujarat helped land-mafias and hindu businessmen in wiping muslims out of their lands, homes and business competition. no social movement can stand on it&#039;s own. in eevery era there were pepople fanatic and idiotic but only the objective conditiond decide whether they have to used or left alone or suppressed.  Think about it. readmore to find out. don&#039;t engage in secular proselytizing of fanatics whatever religion. they wont hear you unless you can make them deaf wih your voice. 
   if iam posited as anti-patriot or pro-pakistani by the fellow writers ,remember there is no religion in the world that are bad and good . every religion or ideology is just one way form of expression of materila conditions of the materrial reality. 

read more my friend,  read .. they won&#039;t do it.  but if you are true to your words, read and fight if not directly on the streets withsecular forces, then at least through ideas.
jai manav

with regards
rahul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Krunal,<br />
    Please don&#8217;t waste your time on replying or debating with the elements like hari.<br />
These castist degenerating brahmin-hinduism does create these kind of thinking. there is no use in advising them.<br />
people have to be educated as society and class to do away with the feudalistic tendencies of religion. especially asian religions which are tentatively fighting for their survival aginst rationalization of society thrrrough modernization. they all will put up their ugly resistance.<br />
    you have only limited choices. try to understand what kind of society breeds such idiotic and dangerous ideologies. wasn&#8217;t it american weapon&#8217;s industry that oversupplied germany with dangerous weapons which eventually drew themselves into the worldwar.weren&#8217;t the riots in gujarat helped land-mafias and hindu businessmen in wiping muslims out of their lands, homes and business competition. no social movement can stand on it&#8217;s own. in eevery era there were pepople fanatic and idiotic but only the objective conditiond decide whether they have to used or left alone or suppressed.  Think about it. readmore to find out. don&#8217;t engage in secular proselytizing of fanatics whatever religion. they wont hear you unless you can make them deaf wih your voice.<br />
   if iam posited as anti-patriot or pro-pakistani by the fellow writers ,remember there is no religion in the world that are bad and good . every religion or ideology is just one way form of expression of materila conditions of the materrial reality. </p>
<p>read more my friend,  read .. they won&#8217;t do it.  but if you are true to your words, read and fight if not directly on the streets withsecular forces, then at least through ideas.<br />
jai manav</p>
<p>with regards<br />
rahul</p>
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		<title>By: hitz rav</title>
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		<dc:creator>hitz rav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi hari and krunal.........i like you both u both people are right with your point of view i cant neutral on this i complately agree with hari........sorry krunal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi hari and krunal&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;i like you both u both people are right with your point of view i cant neutral on this i complately agree with hari&#8230;&#8230;..sorry krunal.</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muslims are criminals by nature and crime is in their genes, 75% of inmates in Jails are muslims, because they live in slums and gettos ,are uneducated. they dont know about Humanity ,kindness ,giving space to others and tolerence ,these things are too remote and difficult for them to understand .(like green house gases  for an Arab) nowhere in their relegion or madressa or even at homes such basic humanity  is tought. A muslim who doesnt have  a job ,a house ,any source of income even he will produce 10 children and will populate slum when he cannt provide even basic necessities will encourage their brood  to become criminal like themself. who are slumdogs (80% of slums and gettos population is muslims and they are involved in petty crimes like theft to rape  ,murder,extortion ,blackmail,bombing,and terrorism. There is no need to bring Hinduatva here. Muslim population in India is about only 25% ,but 80% of rapist arrested and convicted are muslims and almost100% of victims are Hindu,sikh or christian girls and women. In year 2006 100,000 hindu and sikh girls had to elope with muslims  (were converted forcefully by way of rape and blackmail ) Their Modus operandi is like this(same like Surat rapists ) first get friendly with hindu or sikh or chriistian girls through internet, college ,tution,clubs or their sister or mother becomes friendly with these innocent girls .somewhere they lures these innocent girls by using their mother or sister ,and by unsuspected friendly gestures to their home  or coffee shop or at a farm house in disguise of marriage or birthday party .then they Rape her (by putting drugs in tea or coffee or sometime straightaway by force) and will photograph them nude or on compromising position ,will also make video.Then starts blackmailing and repeated rapes of that poor victim ,Victim is left with choices 1. commit sucide.allow repeated rape,convert and elope with muslim,and many of these girls are then sold to contractors of flesh market and for prostitution (Poor Victim is left with no choice except to accept the fate) Rings a bell ,Does any Indian still remember the famous Rape -Photo-Blackmail- Repeated rape case (Multiple victims but modus operandi same as above) from Ajmer sherif ,The criminals were sons and brothers of the custodians of the khawja Md. noor U din Chisti durgah (one of the holiest place for Muslims ) I dont know what happened to that case after initial arrests of those Chiste basturds,The case was bungled by Police,politicians and power brokers and nothing happened ,Congress and its associates (Axis of evil) has made mokery out of Juidicial system,CBI, and system just for votes .Muslims are protected by UPA goverment but as far as hindus ,sikhs are concerned there is no on to listen to their grivences ,  so brothers ,sister,mother and father of all Hindu ,Sikh,and christian ladies be careful next time when you join a friends marriage /birthday party or you join a group at Internet,school,college the danger/Rapist might  be sitting next to you pretending as your friend.lot of them will be petroling and looking for a victim in functions like garba,navratras,christian and sikh religeous Congregations
PS be careful:sometimes these rapist/muslim keep hindu/sikh or christian namesand pretend like that so as  to appear innocient,acceptable,and harmless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslims are criminals by nature and crime is in their genes, 75% of inmates in Jails are muslims, because they live in slums and gettos ,are uneducated. they dont know about Humanity ,kindness ,giving space to others and tolerence ,these things are too remote and difficult for them to understand .(like green house gases  for an Arab) nowhere in their relegion or madressa or even at homes such basic humanity  is tought. A muslim who doesnt have  a job ,a house ,any source of income even he will produce 10 children and will populate slum when he cannt provide even basic necessities will encourage their brood  to become criminal like themself. who are slumdogs (80% of slums and gettos population is muslims and they are involved in petty crimes like theft to rape  ,murder,extortion ,blackmail,bombing,and terrorism. There is no need to bring Hinduatva here. Muslim population in India is about only 25% ,but 80% of rapist arrested and convicted are muslims and almost100% of victims are Hindu,sikh or christian girls and women. In year 2006 100,000 hindu and sikh girls had to elope with muslims  (were converted forcefully by way of rape and blackmail ) Their Modus operandi is like this(same like Surat rapists ) first get friendly with hindu or sikh or chriistian girls through internet, college ,tution,clubs or their sister or mother becomes friendly with these innocent girls .somewhere they lures these innocent girls by using their mother or sister ,and by unsuspected friendly gestures to their home  or coffee shop or at a farm house in disguise of marriage or birthday party .then they Rape her (by putting drugs in tea or coffee or sometime straightaway by force) and will photograph them nude or on compromising position ,will also make video.Then starts blackmailing and repeated rapes of that poor victim ,Victim is left with choices 1. commit sucide.allow repeated rape,convert and elope with muslim,and many of these girls are then sold to contractors of flesh market and for prostitution (Poor Victim is left with no choice except to accept the fate) Rings a bell ,Does any Indian still remember the famous Rape -Photo-Blackmail- Repeated rape case (Multiple victims but modus operandi same as above) from Ajmer sherif ,The criminals were sons and brothers of the custodians of the khawja Md. noor U din Chisti durgah (one of the holiest place for Muslims ) I dont know what happened to that case after initial arrests of those Chiste basturds,The case was bungled by Police,politicians and power brokers and nothing happened ,Congress and its associates (Axis of evil) has made mokery out of Juidicial system,CBI, and system just for votes .Muslims are protected by UPA goverment but as far as hindus ,sikhs are concerned there is no on to listen to their grivences ,  so brothers ,sister,mother and father of all Hindu ,Sikh,and christian ladies be careful next time when you join a friends marriage /birthday party or you join a group at Internet,school,college the danger/Rapist might  be sitting next to you pretending as your friend.lot of them will be petroling and looking for a victim in functions like garba,navratras,christian and sikh religeous Congregations<br />
PS be careful:sometimes these rapist/muslim keep hindu/sikh or christian namesand pretend like that so as  to appear innocient,acceptable,and harmless.</p>
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		<title>By: asli bharatiya</title>
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		<dc:creator>asli bharatiya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haribhai

Who asks u to leave HINDUTVA. The problem is with yr &#039;HINDUTVA&#039;. The party bjp that has think tank, could not difine &#039;HINDUTVA&#039;, u a layman is going to difine Hindutva. Pls clarify that u beleive in HINDUTVA of bajpai or that of varun. Hindutva of bjp is rejected by wise Indians. We want bjp to give one clear difination that can bring bjp into mainstream. 
Today, bjp itself is out of mainstream &amp; asking others to come within mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haribhai</p>
<p>Who asks u to leave HINDUTVA. The problem is with yr &#8216;HINDUTVA&#8217;. The party bjp that has think tank, could not difine &#8216;HINDUTVA&#8217;, u a layman is going to difine Hindutva. Pls clarify that u beleive in HINDUTVA of bajpai or that of varun. Hindutva of bjp is rejected by wise Indians. We want bjp to give one clear difination that can bring bjp into mainstream.<br />
Today, bjp itself is out of mainstream &amp; asking others to come within mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: dave patel</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>join this community to support the girl!

http://www.orkut.com/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=91275679</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.orkut.com/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=91275679" rel="nofollow">http://www.orkut.com/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=91275679</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nakli bharatiya
You can go on and on pointing fingers at &#039;others&#039; and blame gaming to prove your point, because that is how people like you are groomed. I don&#039;t blame you.
Without wasting my time with a nuthead like you, It is best for me now to leave your misbeliefs to our flawless karma system. At least I won&#039;t go out of my way from Hindutva, because I know it works (and with peace and joy).
जय श्री राम</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nakli bharatiya<br />
You can go on and on pointing fingers at &#8216;others&#8217; and blame gaming to prove your point, because that is how people like you are groomed. I don&#8217;t blame you.<br />
Without wasting my time with a nuthead like you, It is best for me now to leave your misbeliefs to our flawless karma system. At least I won&#8217;t go out of my way from Hindutva, because I know it works (and with peace and joy).<br />
जय श्री राम</p>
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		<title>By: asli bharatiya</title>
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		<dc:creator>asli bharatiya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr. hari

This is not religious forum. Don&#039;t propogate religion. yr rubbish arguments shows bankruptcy of mind of sangh parivar.
u are saying bjp infighting as good developement. 

But we feel it is danger for INDIA. bcos no opposition in parliament. bjp is sinking. Lalu is waiting call from Soniaji for ministership. We need good opposition to control the rulling party.

In 2004, Communist played roll of opposition though they were supporting UPA bcos bjp was idle &amp; just wasting time of parliament by opposition &amp; bouycoting parliament.
This is yr RASHTRAVADI bjp that never though of the nation. 

TAMARA (HARIBHAI) HAAL TO KUVA NA DEDKA JEVA CHHE. KUVA NO DEDKO EVU SAMZE CHHE KE KUVO J AAKHI DUNIYA CHHE. TAME EVU SAMZO CHHO KE GUJARAT J DUNIYA CHHE. haaaaaa.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr. hari</p>
<p>This is not religious forum. Don&#8217;t propogate religion. yr rubbish arguments shows bankruptcy of mind of sangh parivar.<br />
u are saying bjp infighting as good developement. </p>
<p>But we feel it is danger for INDIA. bcos no opposition in parliament. bjp is sinking. Lalu is waiting call from Soniaji for ministership. We need good opposition to control the rulling party.</p>
<p>In 2004, Communist played roll of opposition though they were supporting UPA bcos bjp was idle &amp; just wasting time of parliament by opposition &amp; bouycoting parliament.<br />
This is yr RASHTRAVADI bjp that never though of the nation. </p>
<p>TAMARA (HARIBHAI) HAAL TO KUVA NA DEDKA JEVA CHHE. KUVA NO DEDKO EVU SAMZE CHHE KE KUVO J AAKHI DUNIYA CHHE. TAME EVU SAMZO CHHO KE GUJARAT J DUNIYA CHHE. haaaaaa&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nakli bharatiya,
    stop being a sycophant like Navin Chawla AND for sure stop eating the DNAs of fearful animals, otherwise you people may continue to live in fears under hidden names and hidden faces.
    Adopt Hindutva like Ustad Bishmillah Khan or Mohammad Rafi or Bharat ratna Abdul Kalamji, you will be a free man and a fearless one at best.
जय श्री राम</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nakli bharatiya,<br />
    stop being a sycophant like Navin Chawla AND for sure stop eating the DNAs of fearful animals, otherwise you people may continue to live in fears under hidden names and hidden faces.<br />
    Adopt Hindutva like Ustad Bishmillah Khan or Mohammad Rafi or Bharat ratna Abdul Kalamji, you will be a free man and a fearless one at best.<br />
जय श्री राम</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nakli bharatiya,
      to enforce your point you cannot see any reason. 
The present goondaraj Kangress is not even close to the original Congress. Know your history before farting out the propaganda. 
Did you know that Congress party already died in 1967 after it was broken up into the Indira congress called as Congress(I), or the goondaraj Kangress panjaa party.
It was silently and covertly rechristened into Indian National Congress by some Navin Chawla type psycho so that they continue to leverage its name and befool public with their politics of fear. Till date they persist to enslave India by taking advantage of the &#039;fear&#039; DNAs eaten by the ghetta-bakri mindset of bakri-id violent fanaticism.
 
You may see BJP as infighting, however I am proud of it because it goes to show that internal democracy within BJP Is alive and thriving which eventually is good for the nation because it sustains a firm unity like the comity of our beautiful languages. Correction is the mantra for progress, whereas the goondaraj Kangress using chamchaagiri of people like nakli bharatiya has brought disasters like terrorism/attacks on our constitution which you are complete ego-blinded to be able to see, which is the tragedy of India.

Thus, it is proved that the cults of Islam and the white racism are prone to the massive abuse of mankind
Only Hindutva has the answer to be sustaining in yeons of millenium. Ride the truth and enjoy the journey.
जय श्री राम</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nakli bharatiya,<br />
      to enforce your point you cannot see any reason.<br />
The present goondaraj Kangress is not even close to the original Congress. Know your history before farting out the propaganda.<br />
Did you know that Congress party already died in 1967 after it was broken up into the Indira congress called as Congress(I), or the goondaraj Kangress panjaa party.<br />
It was silently and covertly rechristened into Indian National Congress by some Navin Chawla type psycho so that they continue to leverage its name and befool public with their politics of fear. Till date they persist to enslave India by taking advantage of the &#8216;fear&#8217; DNAs eaten by the ghetta-bakri mindset of bakri-id violent fanaticism.</p>
<p>You may see BJP as infighting, however I am proud of it because it goes to show that internal democracy within BJP Is alive and thriving which eventually is good for the nation because it sustains a firm unity like the comity of our beautiful languages. Correction is the mantra for progress, whereas the goondaraj Kangress using chamchaagiri of people like nakli bharatiya has brought disasters like terrorism/attacks on our constitution which you are complete ego-blinded to be able to see, which is the tragedy of India.</p>
<p>Thus, it is proved that the cults of Islam and the white racism are prone to the massive abuse of mankind<br />
Only Hindutva has the answer to be sustaining in yeons of millenium. Ride the truth and enjoy the journey.<br />
जय श्री राम</p>
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