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German MPs preaching human rights? Look whose talking!

German MPs preaching human rights? Look whose talking!
Ahmedabad, DeshGujarat, 13 April, 2010



Right wing German Christian MPs angry with Gujarat government’s religious conversion related law last week visited Gujarat and passed offending and defamatory comments about Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi on human right issue. While German MPs and Christian Missionaries said they were in Gujarat to study ‘human right’ situation in the state, it would be interesting to know about human right condition in Germany itself.

Eight of Germany’s 16 states contain restrictions on wearing the hijab: first Baden-Württemberg, then Bavaria, Hesse, Lower Saxony, the Saarland, Bremen, North Rhine-Westphalia and Berlin.

Five of these states that ban religious clothing, contain an exception for Christian symbols and clothing: Baden-Württemberg, Saarland, Hesse, Bavaria, and North Rhine-Westphalia.

In Baden-Württemberg, the state prohibits Muslim teachers from wearing the headscarf, but allows teachers to wear Christian clothing, such as the nun’s habit. The state courts upheld an appeal against the ban by several Muslim teachers, on the grounds of religious discrimination, since Catholic nuns are allowed to teach in full religious habit. The state government has appealed the decision. The regulation in North Rhine-Westphalia is similar to that in Baden-Württemberg. Bavaria also allows the nun’s habit, while banning the Muslim headscarf.

Education in Germany is the responsibility of the individual states, which each have their own education ministry. In September 2003, the German Federal Constitutional Court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) ruled that the states could ban the wearing of Islamic headscarves by female teachers, and that this would not infringe the constitutional protection of freedom of religion. However, a ban could only be implemented by a state law, and not by administrative decisions.

In one incident involving Islamic dress in Germany, two 18-year old students, one Turkish and one Kurdish, appeared at a school in Bonn in a burqa; they were suspended for “disturbing the peace.” The German Finance Minister cancelled a visit to the school, and the two were investigated by the intelligence service, who suspected them of contacts with the controversial King Fahd Academy in Bonn.

The incident illustrates the sensitivity in Germany over Islamic dress, especially in schools. It led the Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries to call for nationwide standard school uniforms (itself a sensitive issue in Germany because of the association with the Nazi Hitler Youth and the East German Free German Youth).

In Germany women in burqa or chador are forbidden to drive motor vehicles. The Federal Transport Ministry confirmed that a de facto ban already exists.

Now this Germany’s right wing fascist Christian MPs visit Gujarat and pass comments on the human right situation here. They should better know that in Gujarat we don’t ban burqas or hijab. We are more tolerant than Germany and our government is more liberal than the German government ruled by Christian Democratic Union. (Photo with the article:Shown in red are German states banning the wearing of headscarves by female teachers as of 2007)


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In his recent article in Globalia Magazine Abu Bakr Rieger, a Muslim narrates true face of Germany that preaches others lessons of human right but see what’s the reality there on the home ground. Following is Abu Bakr Rieger’s article:

Is Germany systematically opposed to Islam? Germany is very partial to lecturing the rest of the world on human rights and the protection of minorities, there should in principal be no objection to a bit of critical self-reflection.

Germany is also witnessing the re-emergence of a new racism which seeks to deny these Muslims the description of being “German”, especially those of them born in Germany. One should bear in mind that the subject of Ausländerfeindlichkeit, or xenophobia, which was so widely discussed prior to 9/11, has now mysteriously disappeared from the public discourse.

The way these new citizens are dealt with is of course determined to a large extent by political parties, media, the intelligence services, and a variety of NGOs. One important question about how minorities are dealt with in practical terms is whether institutions and societal forces possess a minimum level of fairness and neutrality. Furthermore, the interplay between these societal forces can potentially bring about a kind of systematic approach which effectively dismantles a nation’s protection of its minorities – even if this approach is not what was originally intended.

Considered objectively, Muslims in Germany carry very litle political weight in the capital, Berlin. From the Muslim point of view there are reservations especially about the current governing party, the CDU/CSU. And practicing Muslims have hardly ever been promoted within the structures of other parties either, nor have prominent Muslims so far been able to secure any relevant seats in parliament

On a local and national level, the conservative party also profiles itself against the EU membership of “Muslim” Turkey. In this respect critics acknowledge that the CDU, itself undergoing an identity crisis, is atempting to reclaim its own conservative profile by adopting rhetoric against Islam. On the other hand Wolfgang Schäuble, the former CDU Minister of Home Affairs, did organize the Islam Conference, a consultative body aimed at improved relations between the government and Muslims.

Of course mass media has a key effect on shaping public opinion about a minority. The generality of Muslims inside Germany are regularly associated with extreme misfits (“honor”-killers, terrorists), and sometimes with bizarre criminal acts. These associations have a devastating public impact The contradictory term “Islamic” terrorism has been effectively established by majority media, and has never been corrected by the publication of surveys that prove that terrorism today has the greatest impact of all on the Muslims themselves.

Furthermore, the major mass media offers a broad and regular forum for vehement and sometimes polemical critics of Islam, whereas Muslim or pro-Islamic authors gain nowhere near the same regular access to mass media. In the mass media, the clear balance of power between majority and minority enables a domination of terms and definitions, done by evaluating the nature of someone’s believes as “modern” or “conservative”, applying the problematic differentiation between Muslims and Islamists, and forming politically powerful terms such as “Islamism”.

Like other citizens in Germany, Muslims also fear atacks and support the investigation of such intentions. As well as having national intelligence authorities, Germany also has a security branch for each federal state. The security apparatus which deals with the “Islamist” threat has grown enormously over recent years. The so-called Verfassungsschutz offices, which define themselves as protecting the constitution, liken Islamism to left and right-wing ideologies doing this the authorities barely differentiate between modernist, traditional or orthodox Islamic positions, although they do recognize such differentiating aspects when assessing Judaism and Christianity, expressing few objections to their orthodoxy or fundamentalism and subjecting them to litle public scrutiny.

The “broad” and “controversial” term Islamism is differentiated in terms of how willing certain groups are to resort to violence, and yet committed Muslims who do not see themselves as Islamists find themselves easily falling into dossiers that overlap with mass murderers and criminals.

Publications of these details amount to a de facto expulsion of Muslim communities and individuals from the relevant sectors of public life in Germany. Of course, Muslims are also disadvantaged in Germany from other angles, the following of which are especially problematic:

Of course, the discovery of terrorist plans by Muslim extremists has caused quite a sensation in Germany. It is regularly suggested that the “Islamist scene” that is defined publicly in such vague terms could descend at any time into terrorism and extremism. The state of Lower Saxony has been criticized for monitoring mosques, about which no suspicions exist, something they declare to be a precautionary measure against potential terrorists. Civil liberty campaigners are now worried that the population will gradually become accustomed to a process leading up to a permanent state of emergency. Dozens of warnings against possible atacks also influenced the latest parliamentary elections. However, undercover informers operating on behalf of Western security services have been involved in numerous terrorist conspiracies. What is contentious in this respect is not the logical necessity to investigate conspiracies using undercover agents; it is the extent to which advanced conspiracies are only possible given the actions of undercover elements.

Many active and widely promoted critics of Islam in Germany insist that Islam is foreign and backward-looking, and negate the possibility that Muslim positions might develop and adapt in accordance with the changes of a technologically defined world. German Muslims, especially those Germans who have entered Islam, are described in public discourse not only as “confused misfits” and discredited as “radicals”, they are more and more frequently made responsible for a series of grievances in the Islamic world as a whole.

In this way the idea that most Muslims are mere guests in Germany is reinforced in public. Sometimes it is even claimed that German Muslims ought not to be accommodated until minorities are given similar rights in all Islamic countries.

The public confusion between culture and Islam is almost systematically propagated, in spite of the fact that a large number of Europeans are themselves Muslims. And all the while, the fate of Muslims who have been murdered in Europe, and the existence of significant Muslim civilizations inside the continent, are barely mentioned and are sometimes even denied.

One well-known German sociologist was recently atacked as an anti-Semite because he compared stereotypes of Germany’s current public debate with the anti-Semitism of the 19th century.

Of course, government parties possess an organizational sovereignty legitimized by elections. However, when it comes to the way Muslims are dealt with in Germany this right of the majority has certain difficult aspects. Muslims and their organizations have to date barely had any say in the composition of important consultative gatherings such as the Islam Conference.

In the training of Imams, teaching posts are awarded to Muslims who are proven outsiders, so that the minority is effectively represented by a minority within the minority. Many important German organizational bodies such as Rundfunkrat (Broadcasting Council), one of whose tasks is to ensure that minority rights are protected in the media, contain no Muslim representatives at all.

Perhaps the most alarming intellectual phenomenon to impact on the way Muslims are accommodated in Germany is the active polarization of the Muslim community. Muslims are by nature obliged to avoid extremes and not to gather on extreme positions. Today in Germany, idealized concepts of “especially good” and “especially bad” Muslims are widely promoted. “Bad” Muslims are what justify the burgeoning security apparatus and the latent mistrust of all Muslims, while “good” Muslims, beyond all suspicion, are required to make constant statements exposing their quasi-secular position.

Under the pressure of extremism, more and more ordinary Muslims are avoiding the public eye. There is a danger that in Germany, in the long term, public debate, as well as academia, will only accept those who actively relativise that claim to truth which defines every religion. We must not overlook the danger of the majority society creating an Islam which it finds “pleasant”.

The public debate has led not only to a growing level of discrimination in everyday life, but also to a de facto professional ban on Muslim woman who wear a headscarf. There are also growing fears that the German public could be stirred up to a new kind of friend-and-foe way of thinking against the Muslim minority in the country.

There are many reasons to defend our nation against indiscriminate attacks – a nation which we, like all other citizens, acknowledge. But there are also good reasons to criticize loudly the way Germany treats its Muslim minority before an unintentional systematic approach mutates into a full-blown system.

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Comments

  1. Hari says:

    these German wolves wearing Christian brand are brainwashed to continue to spew hatred propaganda from their hangover of racism, world wars and debt trap. Not to mention the killing of millions of celtics, and jews by these hate mongers. They don’t even understand the human rights of their parents, nor children, nor their own pets, lest they would care two hoots for the human rights of ‘Indians’.

    I see this as a wake up call for all Bhaarateeyans to take up Hindu practices on a war footing, such as daily Surya Namaskaars, celebration of our festivals with original spirit, and respecting honoring the human rights of our parents and maanas puja of GURU, our BHaaratmaataa.

    The dogmatic Germans are fearful of it, and we need to know it very well, that Hindutva is the culture of the youth, and a lifestyle of the scientific age.
    Jaya Shree Raam!

  2. p t suresh says:

    Very good, this is exactly how inteligent people address issues in the modern ages i.e. carry out you research and nail the lie. Please publish this article in all the news papers and also to TV channels not only in India but also in Germany.

    Rgds

  3. Twastha.Dubai says:

    DG, Good reasearched to expose Germans. But it will have more impact when this article being published in all Indian print and electronics media, which is almost next to impossible as because most of Indian medias god fathers are anti gujarat NGO groups so they will not be interested in that. Must be waiting for 30th April till they get some masala on 30th April by SIT reports.

  4. Heer says:

    There are different sects in Chritianity.
    In European countries some of these sects are outlawed by their government.
    I believe the outlawed creep back by changing the name from places to places.
    They form their own Human rights group and use it to get a back door entry.
    Missio is one of them.Also known as the church of later day saints.(Out lawed in most countries)
    Please some one copy articles from derspigal about the sexual activities of these sich cristian prists who like to have sex with Male Boys in news on all channels in Europe and America.

  5. Heer says:

    First of all let me tell you all NGO are formed for Nefarious Anti Indian Activities. They get Lods of Funds from abroad by questionable l sources.
    I know that Sikhs had their own Khalistanis doubling up as Sikh Human rights workers.And they formed many.
    Same is for Jihadi groups. Teestas Jihadi husband help her form an internation human rights and peace group that has Al Qaida signature and has branches world wide, including a bogus anti Modi group of that Name in USA.
    When appropriate she goes to Christian human rights groups (once again formed by Doubtful people with doubtful motives), she claims to be a Hindu Brahmin woman. Not telling the truth that she has converted to Salafi Islam.
    With her Communist groups she describes herself as atheist.And Revolutionary Communist.
    But in Indian media she brands herself as a Social worker.She is a pathological lier and enemy of India as all communists and Jihadis are.
    Her Husband keeps a low profile as he is said to be wanted for Murder of Kashmiri Pundits according to Jihadi Loud mouth braggers.Only they know the truth.
    They get away because the media is bought by foreigners as a part of a Major conspiracy to install Sonia Bahu in order to Bring Catholicism on the Indian continent speedily, and remove the threat of emerging Indian Economy against the west.l
    Only way to neutralise is to expose them for what and who they are and form genuine Hindu NGOs to counter lies and expose Maoist and Jihadi threats.

  6. kk says:

    બીજાના ઘરની પંચાતો કરવી સહેલી છે . જો બધાં પોતાનાં ઘર બરાબર સાચવીને બેસે તો આ પ્રશ્નો ઉભા થાય જ નહિ . જ્યાં રોજ સમાચારમાં ધર્મના ગુરુ ઓ એમના જ ધર્મના નિર્દોષ બાળકો પર જાતીય હુમલા કરેછે એ શું બીજાને ધર્મ ની આઝાદીની વાતો શીખવવાના હતા ? મુસ્લિમ ભાઈ ઓ ને પણ ક્યાં ખબર છે —જેટલી શાંતિ ને આઝાદી તેમને ભારતમાં છે તેટલી બીજે ક્યાંય નથી . હા પશ્ચિમના દેશો તેમના જેવી રહેણી કરણી કરશો તો અપનાવશે પણ કેટલા લોકો કામ પર સાડી , માથે પાઘડી કે કપાળે બિંદી કે મુસ્લિમ બહેનોને એમના કપડા પહેરવા દેછે ? ભારત જ એવો દેશ છે કે જ્યાં બધા પોતાના ધર્મ પ્રમાણે રહી જાહેરમાં તહેવારો ઉજવેછે . બે વાસણ હોય તો ખખડે પણ બહારના કોઈ પ્રશ્નો ઉકેલવા નથી આવવાના . જેટલી ચિંતા તમારી વચ્ચે રહેતો નેતા કરેછે તેટલી કોઈ એ કરી નથી ને કરશે પણ નહિ .

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  8. vikram says:

    This has happened only because we have such a weak government at the Centre!!! anybody from world can abuse India and any Indian when and where they want!!!

    India has no respect on any International forums…except where India is consumer and a client!!

    Probably Germany, which has suffered and continues to be humiliated and haunted by its past [nazi and etc] thinks it can move to backseat by enthroning India on that throne using Gujarat riots!! German racism and its frustration is still evident in Germany [but the two German colleagues i have come across are very nice i must say]..!!!

    This selfish Congress and UPA govt is a shame and it will pay a price for such politics…!!

  9. Rishi says:

    Germany stop charging Church Tax on EVERY citizen first regardless of their religion. This is violation of human rights of those who are NOT christian themselves but are forced to pay church tax compulsorily.
    Also, a secular state is not supposed to have taxes on its citizens for conversion to a specific religion.

  10. Heer says:

    Vikram,
    The government in the center is a Proxy government of western and Vatican catholic,strong woman, run with her Handler agents in USA, Vatican and UK and Italian embassy.
    Mr Manhohan Singh is a Poodle dog being fed by Italian Mafiosi.

  11. TheEleMIT says:

    Human right watch report on Germany

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4058110,00.html

    • Angelita says:

      Thanks for wiinrtg this nuanced essay, which is far more true to what I’ve experienced in Quebec than what I was led to expect. How often our anxieties about how we will be stereotyped turn out to be stereotypes themselves and I find the longer I live in a foreign culture, the more layers of such attitudes I discover, only to find out they, too, are far more grey than black or white.

  12. dinesh dalwadi says:

    Desh nu sanman vadharva mate UPA chair person Mrs. Sonia devi ne pranam.
    Jago desh vasio jago, Desh bachavo swabhiman vadharo, congressio jeva napunshak na bano.
    Jay Hind.
    Jay Jay Garvi Gujarat.

  13. CAM says:

    You scum, if your so upset about your treatment in countries you were not born in… Stay out! What gives you the right to try to dictate what happens in our countries! If you don’t like our laws, go back to your homeland. Oh, right, our coutries are far more advanced than your firthy holes. The cristians in strong countries will not put up with your whinning much longer. Erradicate the scum.

    • Mimo says:

      If Cathedrals are empty and mqusoes are full in Europe, it’s not because mqusoes have gained converts from the Church. It’s because the people have failed of the faith of their longfathers of old. Luke 18:8 “…when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”

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