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Top 3 states with highest growth are all BJP ruled, Gujarat 2nd

Top 3 states with highest growth are all BJP ruled, Gujarat 2nd
New Delhi, 29 August, 2010



Raman Singh and Narendra Modi


Chhattisgarh, a state that was formed just 10 years back has emerged as the state with the highest economic growth in the last fiscal. The other two states in top three are Gujarat at second position and Uttarakhand at third position. Interestingly all top three states are ruled by popular BJP governments.

Chhattisgarh, the state, carved out from Madhya Pradesh in November 2000 clocked a GDP growth rate of 11.49 per cent in constant prices at Rs 60,080 crore in 2009-10.

During same period(2009-10), Gujarat emerged as the runner-up with a GDP growth rate of 10.53 per cent. The state’s GDP at constant prices over the last decade went to Rs 2,52,528 crore.

The third place bagged by Uttarakhand, a state which was carved out of Uttar Pradesh in November 2000. The hill state’s GDP grew by 9.41 per cent to Rs 29,507 crore in 2009-10.

It should be mentioned that in any government scheme’s performance parameter, the BJP rules states are generally found on top. Perhaps the UPA government is terrorize by this saffron terror.


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  1. kk says:

    People should open their eyes and see the truth which government and who is devoted working for people. When you talk after doing the work progress is the proof.When you talk and don’t do the work poor third world country is the result. Choice is not the government’s, choice is people’s in this democracy. Keep this in mind when you all vote.Vote for the one that improves not only your life but entire state’s life for many generations without corruption.

  2. vi says:

    bt at d same tim look out for k’nataka. Its in miserable spot

  3. db says:

    well say kk. don’t understand why the people are not open their mind ever after 60 years of experience.

  4. Sudhir Shah says:

    Last election was rigged and fraudulent because of EVM. Lets dissolve Lok Sabha now and hold an election with paper ballot, the election results will be in favor of BJP and other opposition Party.

    The Indian public are very learned and well informed. They know where the progress, fairness and equality is. They know where law and order is upheld and their daughters, wives, sisters and mothers are
    safe.

    Vande Matram

  5. Bharat Patel says:

    Have any of you ever looked at India Government’s debt?

    When Modi became CM first time, it was Rs. 21,000 Crore and now it is Rs. 71,000 Crore. Who is going to pay this all and it’s interest?

    Open your eyes guys, development projects financed by public debt has never worked, and is not going to work in Gujarat. Central government of India is on the same path, increase debt and then create hyperinflation and fake GDP data to make things look good is doom to fail.

    The real progress is not net-of-numbers. It is something you feel when you make buying decisions. people have been using pure peanut oil in Gujarat and now increasingly use imported palmolein oil,
    people have been using pure desi Ghee and now they are diverting to Dalda Ghee,
    people have been living in the house they buy after 10 years of job’s saving, and now they buy on loan with 30 years installment after 10 years of job’s saving.

    Why peoples are moving to lower quality like if economy is improving?

    And if you still feel Gujarat and India is on path of progress, then wait till the debt payback time comes and will find that there is no way to hide. Google economic destructions of nations across globe at any time, and you will find the reason is common “Mount of debt”.

    Our leaders have learnt nothing from history. Russian czar has been advertising progress (with projects like trans-Siberian railway) when Russian revolution killed him with family. All Indian kings were demonstrating new railroad & Bridge projects, Post system, Cars etc but it didn’t change fact that India was being enslaved by Britishers.

    Anyway, it’s matter of time, but is it sure thing that this debt financed growth will fire-back and that will change destiny of over a Billion Indians.

  6. Madhusudan says:

    @ Bharat Patel

    Dear sir,

    Glad to see the issues you have highlighted. u are right on target. I agree with your comments.
    The real progress is not net-of-numbers. It is something you feel when you make buying decisions. people have been using pure peanut oil in Gujarat and now increasingly use imported palmolein oil,
    people have been using pure desi Ghee and now they are diverting to Dalda Ghee,
    people have been living in the house they buy after 10 years of job’s saving, and now they buy on loan with 30 years installment after 10 years of job’s saving.

    Why peoples are moving to lower quality like if economy is improving?

    And if you still feel Gujarat and India is on path of progress, then wait till the debt payback time comes and will find that there is no way to hide. Google economic destructions of nations across globe at any time, and you will find the reason is common “Mount of debt”.

    Wish more people could see through all that facade. you have the daring to say the truth.

  7. maya says:

    patel

    modi has provided infra structure 24 hours to the villages…debt is better than assets in congress men pockets and swiss bank loot…i have nevr seen ur tribe writing about that and congress 60 year misrule…

    and congress spends on perks of ministers and media does propganda on false austerity dram like tharoor in 5 star hotel etc for 60 years in apoor country..u become active for modi because ur stomach starts aching

    u vote for looter and corrupt fraud congress and then lecture us…get lost…

    even if ur figures r correct..gthe debt is paid back by revenuues from taxes and state gdp which is linked to growth….so why ru criticizing modi….why r gujaratis voting for him because they see amrked difference between congress and modi..dont try defending corrupt congress in this slimy fashion…so what r usaying peole shuld prefer congress …at least mdoi is sincere and not corrupt..go and write about swiss bank loot under congress
    which is loss to india..

    instead peole like u will calculate bandh costs just to criticize opposition..

  8. maya says:

    u r foregting private sector gowth like ratan tatat etc due to modi’s policies which increases taxes and revenue to finace debt…..

    wow and u rposing as an economist to bash modi..god save india from jealosu congressis liek u

  9. Mahendra Patel says:

    Where is Maharashtra ?

  10. BAPTY .S says:

    THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL, BJP STATES FAR AHEAD THAN ALL OTHER STATES, SHRI PATELJI, FIGURES ARE NOT LOOKED IN ISOLATION, GUJARAT HAS BEST GROWTH RATE ON ALL FRONTS,INCLUDING HUMAN INDEX, SEE GUJ GDP IN 2001, & GDP IN 2010, SEE ASSETS CREATED ONTHE GROUND TODAY,& NOT IN POLITICIANS POCKETS AS BEFORE. SEE FOREIGN INVESTMENTS NOW, DONOT PASS COMMENTS FOR THE SAKE OF COMMENTS.

    LOANS HAVE TO INCREASE FOR GROWTH,SEE GUJ CONTRIBUTION TO NATIONAL TAX KITTY, COMPARE MAHARASHTRA,WITHOUT MUMBAI YOU WILL KNOW, MUMBAI IS NATIONAL CITY NOT ONLY FOR MAHARASHTRA. PL SPEND 1HOUR WITH NARENDRABHAI HE WILL EXPLAIN OR HE WILL DIRECT YOU TO THE RIGHT OFFICER.

    YOU COMING FROM INDIAS BEST STATE RECOGNISED BY FOREIGNERS,WORLD BANK, DONT YOU FEEL GUJARATI PRIDE IN YOU.

  11. Bharat Patel says:

    Maya,

    I am a die hard anti-Congress and believe it has a lot more negative than just debt. All present issues like separatism, terrorism, poverty, class segmentation, and of course central government debt etc all are result of failed Congress policies. I have been saying that for over 15 years now, but I have recently started putting my thoughts on internet so you will not find a lot of them. Moreover I also mentioned Congress led central government in my post, so it is not attack only on Modi or BJP, but also on congress.

    Having said that, BJP is no different than Congress. Look to the numbers of the debt rising in BJP led states, it is worse than that in Congress led states (again I don’t mean to say Congress is better than BJP). If trends continue, BJP will probably “achieve” much more in 25 years than Congress achieved in 45 years of rule (read: BJP will create more financial problems).

    Re: Ratan Tata’s plant etc, have you read American Revolution, or Hitler’s rising, or Lenin’s Bolsheviks revolution, or Zimbabwe’s hyperinflation? All of them are results of hyperinflation fueled by mountains of debt, and in all cases there were sining companies and nio-riches. But you know what, “It is not lack of rich people, it is abundance of poor people which ignite revolts or kill the economies”. And India no doubt have a lot of poor people. What India facing now is a pre-hyperinflation, that doesn’t mean that India will surely face hyperinflation, but you never know until it happen.

    Have you also ready true growth stories of USA (after it was founded), post World war II Europe, South Korea & Japan? They all had one thing in common, deflation (decreasing goods price) combining with rising employment and life standards. Thats why the growth sustained, and that’s how actually economies functions.

    Let me tell you how Germany functioned before hyperinflation (it was known as Weimar Republic) which ultimately led Hitler to power. The employment was over 100% (all Germans were employed and millions of workers were coming from abroad to “gain” benefits of German economy), people were buying vehicles and houses like crazy, getting a loan was like cutting a piece of cake, factories were being built at every plot found empty, many stopped to wash clothes, why to wash when you can afford new cloths? The problem was that all that was financed by increasing public and private debt and inflation, which is a timely tested formula of growth that have always ended in hyperinflation. I see no reason why it will succeed in India or Gujarat.

    I have all consolations for those who loves India (I am one of them), and I understand that they prefer BJP over Congress. But my point is that they are not looking to whole picture, Congress took decades to create a perfect mess and now BJP is making it even worse, all under name of growth.

    Unfortunately, I see no leader or party really understanding economic issues and trying to resolve it. Probably we will have a lot worse in near future, if Baba Ramdev’s party win election. They have some disastrous economic development idea (like river linking) which will add debt by some 40% and that’s all India need to have a hyper-inflationary complete economic crash.

    Mahendra: Look to price of state grown goods and see if it is going up or not, and how much up it is going. It will give you hint where is Maharastra.

  12. Bharat Patel says:

    Maya,

    #1 No personal offense please. I am willing to bash Congress, Sonia Gandhi, BJP & Modi, but don’t want to put charges on you. I would request same from you, else the attention will be diverted away from the topic.

    #2 Debt is getting paid back by development: Thats same argument put by leaders of all countries getting under debt mountain. If debt is getting paid back, why is total debt increasing, and why we have so much inflation? Moreover, find a single leader any time in any country of world who admitted that his/her country is getting to economic crash through debt burden and inflation. Leander never admit it, and they always keep saying that “we are good”, “economy is under control” and “see, we are paying back”… while debt and inflation keep increasing.

    #3 No, I have never said and would never say to vote for congress. At most, I would say vote for independent candidates if you find qualities on them, else don’t vote. At the same time, I urge people to stop supporting lesser evil, may be voting dropping below 25% will open politicians’ eyes.

  13. nimesh dixit says:

    And Congi followers and neutralites say BJP does not have leaders, its a leaderless party. What a joke?

  14. Bharat Patel says:

    BAPTY,

    Thanks for respectful response. It’s your patriotism which inspire you to write in favor of Gujarat government, not your knowledge of economic history as I believe. BTW: I was a die hard BJP supporter between 1995 and early 2008, and change my stance radically after reading thousands of old and recent writings on economic problems, recessions and wars. I was trying to understand how and why recessions comes, in order to see how it will end recession in USA, and on the way realized that India’s leaders don’t understand or respect economic law written by nature as Obama and company who thing borrowed money will make it better without creating problems.

    Have you ever wondered why a economy hyper-inflate? Don’t their leader learnt from history? The answer unfortunately is yes, they don’t learn from history and keep making same mistakes. Have you even seen any debt financed growing country anytime & anywhere in world which eventually didn’t result in Crash?

    Germany growth was way better than Gujarat’s before final crash in 1923. If they can’t manage it despite of having most intelligent economists in country, how would we?

    Let’s have a test of growth: Do this, stop increasing public and private debt (and start paying it back) for 2 years and see results. Economy will not only stop growing, but will collapse like it did in USA during great depression. All this hype of world bank, Ratan Tata recommending Modi as PM, etc because the persons of point want to gain favor from CM Modi. Same for Modi, he will leave battle ground much before crises hit, and he is just trying to score political points by showing us only half balance-sheet.

    Here are some facts.

    My father opened a factory 35 years ago with only his saving, without debt. I can’t dream it without a loan (a debt).

    I studied standard 11 & 12 thorough engineering while working as a Diamond polisher, I know my nephew cant’ do same, because study became so costly.

    I know many diamond polishers who saved money some years and bought small home (2 rooms, a kitchen and bathroom) without debt in Surat city, now-a-days diamond polishers can’t do same even if they combine saving of 5 persons because house price is rising much faster then their incomes.

    My grand father was poor, but lived through his saving after retirement, can you imagine now a poor living without help on his saving?

    And it’s not only me, it’s same everwhere.

    Increasing price (land, house etc) is calculated as GDP growth, but in real sense it is reduction for millions in life standards because they can’t buy it now which they were able to do a few years ago.

    Finally, real growth demands in-depth understanding of principle of economics. Modi & company have never demonstrated it (they talked Swadeshi, and never implemented it). Yes, there are shortcuts to fool peoples, and thats what all Current state and central government is doing. The short cut is: Borrow or print money, land it to people on interest and draw a picture of growth to win election. Unfortunately, that way always create inflation, and very likely create hyperinflation. PM Manmohan Singh is no different, he openly favors Keynesian economics which is tested failed growth formula.

    Current growth is based on “Ponzi scheme”, which is “borrow more to pay interest of past debt and run development projects”. But there will be a day when nobody will be willing to land money to govt, and that day will unfold a crashing crisis.

  15. BAPTY .S says:

    ALL MY DEAR DAER FRIENDS I AM FORTUNATE TO EXPRESS MY COMMENTS THANKS TO JP/DG, WE ARE ABLE TO EXPRESS FREELY & SEE WITH OUR EYES WHAT WE HAVE SAID, IMMEDIATELY.

    NO ONE CAN CLAIM HE ALONE IS RIGHT, YET THE COUNTRYS WHEEL MUST MOVE ON, WORLD IS MOVING FORWARD, TECHNOLOGICALLY & SCIENTIFICALLY, TIME ALONE CAN TELL WHICH IS RIGHT & WRONG. BUT GIVEN LET US SAY A LIFE SPAN OF 80 YRS, THE YOUNG INDIA GETS 20 YRS TO 70YRS, THAT IS (50YRS OF HEALTHY GOOD LIFE) IF THE MAN OR WOMEN DONOT ABUSE THEIR LIFE.,WITH WRONG FOOD,SPLURGE DRINKING OF ALCOHOL,SMOKING TOBACCO,DRUGS, & OTHER BAD HABITS.

    SO WHETHER YOU ARE A FARMER IN RURAL AREA, OR FACTORY WORKER OR QUITE WELL TO DO URBANITE IN ANY MAJOR CITY OR MAJOR TOWN, THE RULES ARE THE SAME. AS LONG AS THE P.M OR C.M OR WHATEVER YOU MAY CALL HIM ,WHETHER HE IS BJP, CONGRESS OR ANY PARTY, AS LONG AS HE IS BASICALLY HONEST,SINCERE, & GENERALLY PERSONALLY IN CORRUPTIBLE, YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY SEE GROWTH & OVERALL PROGRESS.

    IN MY PERSONAL OPINION WE SEE THIS IN GUJARAT UNDER SHRI NAMOJI ,NO ONE CAN DENY IT. LET US NOT BOTHER WHETHER HE IS BJP, OR CONGRESS OR ANY OTHER PARTY. WE CANT DENY GUJ IS GUJ & WITH MINIMUM CORRUPTION. PLEASE LET US NOT PICK HOLES, & FIND FAULTS, THERE IS “NOTHING CALLED THE BEST IN MY OPINION,” SINCE THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED “BETTER THAN THE BEST”. SIMPLE EVERY YEAR EVEN MERCEDEZ BENZ CHANGE THE MODEL.

    WE MUST ALSO BE PRACTICAL IN A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY OF OVER ONE BILLION PEOPLE (100 CRORE PEOPLE). GREATEST ASSET OF A POLITICIAN IS HONESTY,SINCERITY & INCORRUPTIBILITY. I AM PROUD & BOLD TO SAY THE ONLY POLITICIAN OF STATURE,MERIT & WHO HAS PERFORMED & DELIVERED ON A LARGE SCALE IS YOUR OWN C.M “NARENDRABHAI DAMODARDAS MODIJI.’” SO INDIA ELECTS HIM AS BEST C.M EVERY YEAR & IN LAST 60 YRS NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO HIM.

    SO LET US SEE PLATINUM,GOLD & SILVER AVAILABLE WITH US & WITHOUT ENDLESS THEORETICAL DEBATES BACK HIM AS INDIAS P.M & TAKE COUNTRY FORWARD. WHO KNOWS IN 10 YRS, MAY BE 15 YRS SOME ONE BETTER THAN MODIJI WILL COME. BUT BY THAT TIME THIS COUNTRY WOULD THEN BE A CLEAN HONEST COUNTRY, & MODIJI WILL HIMSELF FIND A FULLY DEVELOPED CAPABLE PERSON, LIKE BJP HAS FOUND NITIN GADKARIJI.

    JAI GUJARAT JAI JAI INDIA, LET US SET EXAMPLE TO THE WORLD, MAY BE IN TEN YRS I I M AHMEDABAD WILL BEAT HARVARD ,WHY NOT? “LET US MOVE AWAY FROM CONGRESS, TILL IT FINDS ITS OWN BEARINGS & LEADERS, OR ELSE YOUNG INDIA WOULD BE THE BIGGESTLOSER.” THEN LET US NOT CRY OVER SPILT MILK.

  16. Bharat Patel says:

    BAPTY

    Escapism doesn’t work. I hope you won’t loss your job, house etc when economic crisis hit, but remember it was you and others like you who represented a zero as a hero and ignored when they had time to correct things.

  17. maya says:

    patel
    #3 No, I have never said and would never say to vote for congress. At most, I would say vote for independent candidates if you find qualities on them, else don’t vote. At the same time, I urge people to stop supporting lesser evil, may be voting dropping below 25% will open politicians’ eyes.

    to me u rhelping congress by dividing vote and diluting criticism…

    to grow debt is needed…its like a student taking aloan for education….so dont worry about debt as long as it gives returns…the deficit is always measured as a % of gdp…and u dont know that…thus a growing economy like gujarat justifies its debt which is put to good use not like congress 60 yr loot for personal wealth reason…

    dont pose as an economist when u r a congress agnet modi basher ….the word loan and credit is a concept that is well accepted….nothing is personal here….except your motives agianst bjp for ur own personal reasons…and dont define irrelevant things like respect
    ur comparison of modiand bp is disgusting ..the cunning media does this all the time..to dilute attack on congress…after 26-11 they were reminding about kandahar..10 years ago…and blaming all politicians
    but when it is gujarat modi is responsible…

  18. das says:

    bharat patel…very clever…..

    u r acommunist..and at the end of the day communists prefer congress to bjp andally with them…

    u know independents dont win…the sytem allows congress to win with 26 % vote…u will not change system but divide vote…in favor of congress…knowing muslim and christian vote will guarntee a vote for congress…shame on u…and dont use nonsense words like calling this personal…

    go to west bengal and compare it with gujarat…and live thre…even media poster boy qutbuddin returned to gujarat from bengal….

    and as someonesaid deficit is judged as % of g dp… a growing gdp and high gdp like guj cals for greter deficit…this is weel known..

    communism has failed everywhre…and u rposing as an economist to attack modi…go and improve bengal firts and ask tata why he left….

    gujarta has placed more peole in jobs than other staes..178 ooo v 2nd maharashtra’s with just 11000
    and maha has abigger population..

    looks like ur stomach aches if peole get jobs and feed their families…

    even china borrow money for growth and it is doing better using the western economic model after communist one failed….

    as someone said communists and anti modi people lik u r traitors….this is how dictionary defines traitor..to act against good of peole…

    so nothing personal about it….facts r facts…just like kasab is a terrorist…now kasab will say we r being disrespectful and personal…..as per his definition..

  19. das says:

    bapty in 10 years,if not now, gujarat deserves to have visa system to enter gujarat for all modi bashers like b patel and congies and media and votebanks who want modi to be replaced by looter congress whose only contribution is to make india gold medalist #1 in swiss assets…

    u cannot have it both ways..u hate modi but want to come to guj to enjoy its progress.

  20. Bharat Patel says:

    Maya,

    #3 good catch. But I tell you another party will raise like Jan-sangh, Janta Dal and BJP did in past, when congress start getting strong. The hope is that the new party will be better than BJP. If country have to be saved then Congress must die, but in afford I hope BJP will not kill state or country.

    On Debt: Do you understand how GDP is measured? They consider rising price of houses and medical as growing GDP and project it as progress, but in fact it reduces peoples affordability.

    Student loan: It is biggest non-sense ever produced by any government, make people full of debt at just beginning of their career. Have our former generations studied on student loans? A good economy have education chip enough so that parents can pay for their child’s education. You know what, parent can’t save money for children education anymore because they are now spending all that money to pay for home loans and health care because of sky high inflation.

    The debt is progress is most misleading concept of all the time. I request you again, do some open mind research and you will find most economic problems in any country are results of debt. USA didn’t became great country by borrowing money or loaning money to their people, they because great by saving and landing money to whole world. They changed policy during 1970s and they have 4 major recessions since then, while they had only 2 in previous 200 years. Thats difference between “Save and invest” Vs. “Borrow and spend”

    Das:

    I am not communist. I am libertarian, a philosophy which was founding principle of USA and it is completely absent in India. My economic thoughts are most affected by those of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin franklin, F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman, Dr. Ron Paul, Robert Prechter and Peter schiff.

    If you please, watch this Peter Schiff’s video. You will find a lot of fun and knowledge of distributivity of debt.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

    Sorry no Indian economist listed, but thats because I find all Indian economists too socialists (close to communist) who are busy playing games of taking money from one’s pocket and putting in other’s pocket.

    China: It is actually net lander of foreign reserve and they holds over a Trillion USD treasury holding in USA. Moreover, they have world’s largest cash foreign reserve of over 2.4 Trillion USD (http://www.chinability.com/Reserves.htm).

    BTW: I live in Virigian-USA and I have been hearing a lot of growth stories of California and Florida, where real estate prices were to the moon and GDP was almost double of rest of the states. Some of my friends invested and moved to Florida during 2004-2007 boom. Popularity of ruling parties in those states were sky high, because of growth. Now all of them lost all money they saved, politicians are retired and unemployment and property lost if highest their among all states in USA. All they had same hype, “debt to DGP ratio is low”, “…but people are paying debt back..”, “We created more jobs then other states” etc which didn’t work

    It’s stupid economic principal which work same, which is Debt fueled growth eventually create mega crash. USA will survive this crash because they have reserve currency and a lead in innovation, India will not.

  21. Bharat Patel says:

    PS: Since I mentioned California and Florida, let me also say that Texas and New Hampshire are among lowest debt (public and private) and they are least affected by current recession.

  22. Bharat Patel says:

    das,

    bapty in 10 years,if not now, gujarat deserves to have visa system to enter gujarat for all modi bashers like b patel and congies and media and votebanks who want modi to be replaced by looter congress whose only contribution is to make india gold medalist #1 in swiss assets…

    So you don’t even respect freedom of speech. You can’t argu with truthful data I provided, and so you want to keep me away from entering Gujarat?!? BTW: I am a tourist in Gujarat (born and spent 25 years in Gujarat before leaving to USA) so I am not really “enjoying progress of Gujarat”

    Can you please tell me what is that mentality if not Communism?

    Do this math: How many Gujaratis leave to foreign each year, and how many native foreigners settle in Gujarat each year? Why are they leaving if Gujarat is so progressing?

  23. das says:

    patel

    i have already argued with u….and u have not rebutted it…

    i have told u why debt is needed as % of gdp ..and how u r helping congress….

    i gave u the math about congress winning with 26 % vote in 2009 and minority votebank guarantee

    u have not even addressed these critical relevant facts ..and changed the goal posts
    by talking about secondary irrelevant issues using subjective words like respect,personal and libertaniasm

    whether u r a communist or not is not the issue…thats semantics….u r helping the congress to rule
    for ever by asking peole to vote for independents…..this is the issue

    indi has only 2 choices bjp or muslim votebank congress…with 26 % vote growing with bdeshis and big families and they make sure to tactically vote to defeat bjp based on religion..

    is this ur idea of libertaiam …letting 7th century proxy sharia in india…tasleema is not allowed in bengal
    and afzal is not punished …while illegal bdeshis are allowed..

    now u r changing the goal post…..ur vocabulary like libertaniasm is irrelevant….
    people call themselves secular and discriminate aginst hindus only like saffron teror and ram sethu
    india is not the usa….so words dont mean anything
    the bottom line is u r helping congress and make sure congress pays u for it….raj t divided vote in maharsahtra..

    and now u want indeps and 3 rd parties to help congress..which anyqay the system allows with 26 % vote win

    u dont even know this fact…

    your hope is not an argument….it is adream…and in the mean time u r asking peole to help congress win and make honest modi lose…..for ur own motives…..all other facts like whre u r ,respect, ur labels of philosphy, ur hope are irrelvant…ur actions are to help congress and hence u r a congress agent..

    freedom of speech….????what nonsense…this is irrelevant and not even logical..what about tasleema salman rushdie and sonia book which ur congress has banned

    the visa example has nothing to do with fredom of sp…it was only sarcasm..because peole who hate modi
    should not want to enter gujarat right because they criticize it..so looks liek u like to stay in gujarat…

    so why dont u go to some other state like bengal ,maha or assam where freedom of speech is allowed for illegal bdeshi visa and not for legal tasleema

    and u talk about rebutting facts….u do not even have logical abilty….and cannot differentiate between main issues like debt as a % of gdp,26 % vote enough for congress with minority communal votebank guarantee….which ur helping ..u dont even learn from facts of 2009 elections and are ignorant that congress won with 26 % vote ..and u talk about third parties inedep who lost for 60 yrs because they divide vote..

    so argu this first…and then nonissues which dont cahne the facts that people like u r helping congress and are congress agents….congreess has follwoe dthis divide and rule for 60 yrs and u dont know….it overturned sc court verdict on shabano in 1986 for voe bank and imposed 7th century sharia and u talk about freedom of speech and empty words like hope,philosphy

    rebut te critical issues instead of hope,respect,personal,philosophy other countries like usa which are richest…modi is giving jobs and feeding epole and that gives u pain…

    what a disgusting person u r…u think u rintellectual…so argue my facts…dont cahnge to irrelant issues….
    like philosphy, usa,hope ….go hope ur stupid dreams…not based on facts or logic…because of ur ignorance about 26 % system and ur libertaniasm sharia…

    u ahve 2 choices bjp or congress …and u dont even know that…go to arabia and sit in a tent and write ur hope in the sand and the camels will applaud and so will the srabs who r funding another congress agent teesta javed and media mafia who have business there…

    u make me waste my time to address ur ignorance and deficient logical abilities ..and then u talk of ” respect as defined by u …..and dont even understand the irony that modi haters would perefr to live in gujarat than wbengal like psoter boy qutbuddin

  24. das says:

    to clarify an irrelevant issue …..i called u communists because if ur not congress then u r communist … based on their actions to oppose congress and yet help them against bjp…

    get it….actions speak louder than words..ur action are to help congress by dividing bjp vote
    and u said u oppose congress just like communists do..

    this was the logic and u dont have that ability to analyse …so ur words can be written in the sands of california for all the difference it makes to india

    u remind me of the bottom ranked arts majors who use big subjective vague words like freedom of speech secularism,fascism and are left leaning in media to oppose bjp and supprt congress with ulterior motives…

    eg of these hypocrites r barkaha rajdeep and prannoy roy who was saying basu would make a great pm…
    and bash modi evn when w bengal was rejected by performer ratan tata…for u guessed it gujarat..

    great company man…u r in agree ment with all modi bashers like 7th century mullahs…

    very logical libertaniasm company…i would rather not agree with their 7th century religous mindset..freedom of speech my foot…tasleema kicked out of bengal and arrested in delhi..

    only bjp took up her cause…u dont even know shahbano..who is responsible for ur bomabstic ignoranece
    modi is feeding peole and u talk of richest usa where hunger is the rare exception

    shame on u u.. u want poor country to feed themselves with liberatanism as stupid hypocrite bombasts like u define it…even if irrelevant…and u live in the richest country far away from congress looted poor india….try switzerland..congress has added to their economy with a trillion dollar loot…

    and they banned minarets..but who can argue with an ignorant who has no knowledge of facts..

    and on top is incapable of logic and is a hypocrite

  25. das says:

    patels logic ::Do this math: How many Gujaratis leave to foreign each year, and how many native foreigners settle in Gujarat each year? Why are they leaving if Gujarat is so progressing?

    patel gujarat has 5.5 crores who voted for modi again and again…

    and u tell them to vote for indeps to help congress win…and then u lecture about freedoms without respecting voters right…

    why ???…what is the population leaving for usa from whole india…it is only thousands per year and u talk of math…
    and how many of these r leaving from gujarat…and how many r migrating to gujarat because of jobs that help them feed their families….from other non performing states

    this is ur level of critical reasoning….

    ever heard about statistsics..no wonder u sound like a bombast liberal arts major…who have no logic or math skills..

  26. das says:

    patel’s genius >> how many native foreigners settle in Gujarat each year?

    what ajoke this is ..this shows ur hatred for modi ..like the mullahs …

    no one is comparing gujarat with richest usa….modi inherited a congress ruled gujarat
    and he is improving that ..so the comparison shuld be beween guj before and after modi..

    and gujarat with other states…and the rate of progress.usa had 200 years and a
    large endowment of resources….india was looted and enslaved and continues to be under congress..

    u compare gujarat to usa and give modi less than ten yeras ..what an evil clown ur

    and native foreigners have no raeson to migrate to gujarat because they r welll off

    u r only exposing ur bombast and ur deficiency of real factual knowledge and analysis
    and logic..no one can feed the hungry with ur hope and philosphy while u live in a very rich country
    hypocrite

  27. Bharat Patel says:

    Go read history, withing 5 years of USA independence people started moving to USA from all over the world. USA was a way smaller in terms of population when it got freedom, still it progressed much faster than Gujarat in 10 years. There was no planes still people moved to USA. USA is a baby country in world with only 235 years of like, while Gujarat had over 2000 years of known history and over 50 million population which can not attract 1000 persons a year.

    Your comparison is just rubbish, comparing with backward states ignoring future disasters planted by Modi is not counted.

    Anyway, you are not only ignorant in the world, and thats why politicians keep winning even after making their country poor.

    You have no logical arguments except anti-congress (anything anti-Congress is good for you), so I would close this thread.

    I had hopes some intelligent arguments with real numbers, Didn’t know I am arguing with Vyakti-Bhakts of Modi.

  28. das says:

    so patel….u shuld become the most famous person in the world for ur magical brain that predicts future disasters by modi but but ignores real disasters by congress like 100,oo dead in terror and bhopala nd swiss bank loot …wow….what a way to get at modi by doing bhavishya wani abdout future disasters…only by modi…this is like

    saying a btsmen who is scoring centuries based on performance shuld be rejected because he will score zeros in the future..says bharat the great sent by god to help us against modi’s future disasters..

    just because the star batsman is hated by the the great self apponied jyotishi bharat…or as an agent of that batsman’s enemy..

    ur arguments have no basis in facts…u are avoiding them…the choice is between congress and bjp
    and u r helping congress period ….and most gujaratis have rejected congress…

    so much for ur fascism…and u call urself libertaniasm…hope and bhavishya vani ..yeah ur god man….

    crores of gujaratis shuld pay u to predict future disasters …taht is ur argument…and hope and dream…

    about independent party…..

    u r showing ur ignorance and lack of logic based on facts by comparing usa…to gujarat..

    the choice is between congress rule and bjp rule…get it genius…crores of peole cannot go to usa….

    and modi is doing that…to u ur ego and nutcase dreams r more important…than the choice of crores of gujaratis…

    and tehy r far smarter than u..and u rtelling them what to do with such stupid analysis…

    u think indepenents will rule this country..u moron…and we know they only create unstability and are horse traded..

    u r not responding to facts and analysis….can u read that i said usa was endowed with natural resources and peole wnet there for the opportunities
    and it is irrelevat comparison to gujarat which is not usa…the comparison is between congress and modi…

    if modi lose congress will rule…has congress made any stae usa in 60 yrs…so why this yardstick for modi..what an evil clown u r

    r usa ying guja shudl be compared with usa in 10 years and not congress ruled staets in last 60 years..

    u r abottom ranked 50 % arts major …for heavens sake….go and read books in the library .. and u think u can predict the future which even iitians dont do..

    so how many peole is india attracting in congress ruled staes..u clown…is that the yardstick..

    many more peole r attracted to guajrat than otehr staes ask ratan tata,devgan,and many otehr ceos…

    they know gujarat is much better….go and dream in teh sands of arabia and dont give fatwas to gujaratis whom to vote…they r much smarter than 50 % cutoff majors like u….with big unjustified egos…

    to think u can predict disaster like some god..what a nut case..people need to feed their families….hunger is a present disaster and modi is preventing that…so look at the sky and keep dreaming about independent paty and future disasters only by ur hated modi…

    insane man…thinks himelf to be god…yeah ur god….

    shame on u..modi is giving jobs and feeing peole…here….and u r comparing to usa…as if anyone can move to usa….what an evil clown….

  29. Sidarth says:

    @Bharat Patel

    You are not that smart in finance and economics don’t you???

    You must understand the state’s GDP has quadrupled since 2001. So you are saying under modi’s leadership the state debt increase from 21,000 crores to 77,000 crores.

    While state’s GDP rose from 1,20,000 crores to 5,30,000 crores(4 times) during 2001-2010 period.

    Comparing this to state debt. The debt rose less than 4 times(21,000 crores*4 times= 84,000 crores).

    So the debt to GDP ratio has not changed, infact in terms of percentage wise the state’s debt ratio decreased under Modi’s term.

  30. Ashish Goel says:

    Guys,

    I am an economist and pragmatic guy, not fond of BJP/Congress/or any other party.
    If you under stand my comment, good, if not, read it again, discuss this view with your family members, friends, and do some benchmarking.
    “Gujarat story is just incedible, and before you start thinking, I ask you a general question, Is Mr. Modi doing something different to what Chief minister roles & responsibility is for the state and society? Answer is no, he is just doing what every CM should do, no magic, no wonders, just fulfilling his duties honestly, with great dignity.” I wonder why we dont accept the fact that we need to grow up, understand how development, roads, electricity, parks, and green society are important for us; we need to have a balanced development, secured high paid jobs, good living standards in our home city, not like we can move to Pune/Bangalore/Mysore, no, just for the job and betetr life, we should not move, instead, raise these requirements in our city/state, thats what Gujarati/Biharis are doing now, and we are getting jealous for no reasons.

    I am from one of the most backward states in India, living abroad for last 5 years, even today when I look back at my own state, I feel – where is Mr. Modi of my state.

    Today its Mr. Modi, but today it can be Mr. Sharma, Mr. Goel, Mr. Tiwari, or Mr. X, but we need these leaders to start understanding the CM duties.

    Thanks.

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