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Hindu Gujarat that is, Christian Gujarat that it is becoming..

ખ્રિસ્તિ ધર્માંતરણ સામે મોદી સરકાર પ્રોએક્ટીવ પગલા લે

09-01-2008


ગુજરાતમાં ચાલી રહેલા ધૂમ ખ્રિસ્તિકરણના કેટલાક વિડિયો નમૂના
તમામ વિડિયો ગુજરાતના છે

This is an article by JP(deshgujarat.com/abg) on Christian conversion in Gujarat

ગુજરાતમાં આદિવાસીઓની વસ્તીવાળી પૂર્વ પટ્ટીમાં લાખોની સંખ્યામાં ખ્રિસ્તિ ધર્માંતરણ ચાલી રહ્યું છે. ધર્માંતરણ કઈ રીતે કરવામાં આવે છે એની કથા લાંબી છે. આપને આ વિડિયોમાં એ લાંબી કથાની થોડી ઝલક દેખાશે. જ્યારે કોઈ હિંદુ સંત ચમત્કારથી સારવારની વાત કરે છે ત્યારે તેને અંધશ્રદ્ધા નિવારણ કરતી સંસ્થાઓ આવીને બેનકાબ કરે છે અને પોલીસ પણ પકડીને લઈ જાય છે. પત્રકારોને પણ લખવાની મજા પડે છે. પણ આ જ બાબત ખ્રિસ્તિ ધર્મના આ પ્રચારકોને લાગુ નથી પડતી કે જેઓ આદિવાસી વિસ્તારમાં હજારોને એમ કહીને ભેગા કરે છે કે તેમના દુ:ખ દર્દ ઈસુનો આત્મા આવીને દૂર કરશે. આ લોકોને કોઈ પોલીસ પકડતી નથી, કોઈ અંધશ્રદ્ધા નિર્મૂલનવાળા આ લોકો સામે વિરોધ કરતા નથી કે કોઈ પત્રકાર આ લોકો વિરૂદ્ધ કશું લખતા નથી કારણકે આ લોકો બધુ ધર્મના ઓઠા હેઠળ કરે છે અને એ ઓઠાવાળો ધર્મ હિંદુ નહી પણ ખ્રિસ્તી છે. ઓઠુ ખ્રિસ્તી ધર્મનું છે એટલે પ્રશાસનથી માંડીને બધા ચૂપ કારણકે ભારત બિનસાંપ્રદાયિક દેશ છે એટલે હિંદુ સિવાયનુ કોઈ ધર્મના નામે કશું પણ કરતુ હોય તો પગલા લેવામાં ખચકાટ રહે છે કે ક્યાંક આ કામ બિનસાંપ્રદાયિકતા વિરૂદ્ધનું તો સાબિત નહી થાય ને? આ ખચકાટ એ વાસ્તવમાં બાયલાપણુ છે. શું ગુજરાત બાયલાપણાના માર્ગે છે?

આવા ચમત્કારથી રોગ સારવાર કરવાના અને તે બહાને ધર્મ પરિવર્તનની મોટી સભાઓ કરનારાની સામે કોઈ કેસ કેમ નથી નોંધતુ? આવી ધતિંગવાળી સભાઓને સ્થાનિક સરકારી પ્રશાસન પરવાનગી કઈ રીતે આપે છે? રેશનાલીસ્ટો આવા સમયે ક્યાં ગુમ થઈ જાય છે? બૌદ્દિકો કયા દરમાં ભરાઈ જાય છે? હિંદુ સાધુ કરે એ પાખંડ, તો આ ખ્રિસ્તિઓ આ વિડિયોમાં ગુજરાતના ભોળા આદિવાસીઓ સાથે કરી રહ્યા છે એ શું છે? મંચ પરથી કહેવામાં આવી રહ્યું છે કે પવિત્ર આત્મા ઉતરશે અને બધા સાજા થઈ જશે! બધુ ઠીક થઈ જશે! પહેલા વિડિયોમાં ખ્રિસ્તિ પ્રચારક કહે છે કે ગુજરાતના હિંદુઓ નાગ અને વાંદરાની પૂજા કરે છે કારણકે આ લોકો સુધી હજુ ગોસ્પેલ પહોંચ્યો નથી!

ધર્મપરિવર્તન માટે થતી ચમત્કારથી સારવાર કરવાનો દાવો કરતી આવી સભાઓની પરવાનગી જિલ્લા તંત્રોએ બિલકુલ આપવી ન જોઈએ. ગુજરાત સરકારે કેટલાક વર્ષો પહેલા ખ્રિસ્તિ ધર્મ પરિવર્તન કરતા નિશ્ચિત ફાધરોને રાજ્યની હદ છોડી ચાલ્યા જવાના હુકમ કર્યા હતા. આવા વધુ હુકમ થવા જોઈએ. રાજ્ય સરકાર પાસે સેંકડો કાયદા છે. તંત્ર છે, સત્તા છે, લોકોએ ખોબેને ખોબે મત આપીને આપેલી વિધાનસભાની સીટો છે. આ પછી પણ રાજ્ય સરકાર ખ્રિસ્તિ ધર્માંતરણના મામલે પ્રોએક્ટીવ દેખાતી નથી. કેરળમાં ગોવામાં ચર્ચ નક્કી કરે છે કે કોને મત આપવો અને કઈ સરકાર લાવવી. નોર્થ ઈસ્ટના રાજ્યોમાં પણ પરિસ્થિતિ જુદી નથી. ગુજરાતમાં વ્યારાની સીટ પર ચર્ચનો પાવર આવી ગયો છે અને કોંગ્રેસના ખ્રિસ્તિ ધારાસભ્ય ચૂંટાય છે. ભાજપ પોતાની દુકાન ચલાવવાના બહાને પણ ચેતે, અતિઉત્સાહી પાદરીઓને ગુજરાતમાંથી બહાર મોકલે, ઢોંગની સભાઓ થવા ન દે, ચમત્કારથી ઈલાજ કરવાની જાહેરાતો કરનારાઓની ધરપકડ કરે.

Feedbacks Received to “Hindu Gujarat that is, Christian Gujarat that it is becoming..”

  1. Gujarat Chahak Says:

    Wake up Gujarat, Wake Up. They are Hijacking our Gujarat. I think that the people who are not educated, they are Converting themself to Christian just because of money and other goodies. Before it become too late please people wake up and kick out this people from out country.

    I am not opposing for Chiristan and Chiristanisum. I am not saying that their path is bad. I just want to tell them that KEEP THAT KINDLY PATH IN YOUR COUNTRY.

    And Thank you for these videos.

  2. hindu Says:

    Dear JP
    Good Job
    My friend
    Tari jem ghana varso pahla me pan janmashtmi na mela ma.
    ishu khistri no prachar karwa vara ne tena modha upar teni j buko fadi ne mari hati.
    salaone
    porbandar ma charch ?
    kone ? ne kyare ? sha mate ? banavi teni enquiry thavi joe.
    hey porbandar valao
    tamara baap dada kyare isai hata ?

  3. hindu Says:

    aa badha ej loko lage chhe je congres ni sabhao ma hoy chhe.
    hey arjun modhwadiya,(porbandar vara)
    aa badha ej chhene jene tame loko bhade thi sabhao bhrwa lai aavta hata.
    mati arjun tu pan taru naam badli ne albert ke anthony rakhi le sala.

  4. Jimish Shah Says:

    See the f*cking energy and confidence of this people. it is obvious that illiterate people will get converted. Hey Guys I think, if this issue is made political than VHP and Bajrang dal can handle this very nicely…

  5. GIRISH FROM CHICAGO Says:

    WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING. CHRISANITY AND ISLAM SPREADING FAST.

  6. Mayank Says:

    I think JP had rightly given ‘what should we do’ perspective in his previous article about the same topic. That previous article had suggestion for aggressive positive activities in tribal areas that can counter Christian conversion. However government’s suppression is equally needed apart from positive groundwork. Both way work can counter this.

  7. dhaval Says:

    what about narendra modi? what he is doing in this alarming situation?

  8. kaushik patel(rampur-vaso) newyorkl Says:

    jp mara bhai tara page padavanu man thay che.haji puri video santi thi joish pan pahela be slot joi ne lage che ke mare pacha gujarat avavu padse.aaatali had sudhi teo jay che ane kahevato apano ujadiat samaj ghoree che.

  9. Fagun Pandya From Cyprus Says:

    We should Focus only Christian Conversion.As muslim conversion is not an issue in Gujrat.
    And We should spread this video as much as we can.
    Those From Outside of India Can Do atleast This through the internet.
    We should spread this to Media and Social Sites Like Orkut

  10. Hiren Says:

    Morari Bapu,
    pramukhswami,
    Asaram Bapu,
    and all sadhus and swamis, stop flying in planes and come to u.s. but sit in bullock carts and go to the every home in tribal area to save our dharma.

  11. Rajul mehta Says:

    JP I must congratulate you for this article. It’s shocking and eye opening.

    Your achievement of preventing Roger hutsma to go on in Ahmedabad is remarkable because he is a big thing. His site is http://www.wo.org/ and he claims miracles to spread Christianity.

    But the most important thing: Christians say they convert people by fair practice of pure religious preaching. These videos tell the different story that they misguide poor, uneducated people with miracle shows and convert.

  12. dhaval Says:

    thanks jp for writing this.
    I have heard it many time, but never seen it.

    We must do something to stop it.

  13. Desai Says Says:

    Load Krishna says.
    All religions are equal. So it is better to follow our religion even if you feel that is not good enough then other.
    We should change your religion means you are decrementing within religions.
    Problem is not Christian. We hindu to fight against the Muslim is way to protect our religion.
    We can stop this by creating a awareness about Hinduism and its believes.
    I am agree with what hiren says. “Morari Bapu, pramukhswami, Asaram Bapu, and all sadhus and swamis, stop flying in planes and come to u.s. but sit in bullock carts and go to the every home in tribal area to save our dharma”

    And please keep the modi aside in this issue. I am his supporter but I don’t want one more (Hindu – Christian) riot on my home land of Gujarat.

  14. dharmesh patel Says:

    this idiots needs to work in their own countries like u.s.a and u.k ,where peopple are non beliver and alcoholic.they never respect the marriages.Hinduism is one of the best religion in the world and one day it will put india in the front because of its tolerance and respect to older.
    money from the temples should be chanalised to reform the lifes of these tribals and sadhus and sanyasi have to stay with these people

  15. Vipul Jani Says:

    Has anybody noticed how they have taken full control over Bollywood for the last 2 years? Every single Hindi ovie with atleast one major actor in it shows blatant Christian Symbols. All marriages happen only in Churches in Bollywood Movies, people only go to Churches to pray, when was the last time you saw a Mandir or a Masjid or a Hindu Religious Ceremony in a Hindi Movie? I have been seriosuly concerned about this for the last2 years.
    Our own people are doing this and our own actors are sold out so shamelessly. Punjabi Hero and Punjabi Heroine (as per the story itself) get married in a church? Does it make any sense?
    I am more surprised that mo media outlet, no newspaper, no channel is even talking about this, although they keep showing us garbage 24 hours a day.
    Why would the God save us, when we ourselves do not want to do anything?

  16. Kala Vinod Says:

    I respect all religions. But the practises used in conversion seem to be unethical. Putting down one religion to promote another is against the basic premise of religion itself. Do the Christian promoters understand the idea and the meaning behind worshipping many Hindu Gods? Each one is a symbolic representation of virtues of human existance and human behaviour.

    Converting uneducated and poor people with false hopes and bribes would not make them true believers in Christianity. A good religion and its promoters should respect another and should promote the word of One Supreme God.

    Leaders of Hindu Religion, people and the government…. Stop this conversion practise.

  17. sudha rajan Says:

    Gujarat is the only remaining Dharmic pride of India. We should save gujarat/bharat . “Synergy ” is

    a group formed of many spiritual groups with VYASA ( Yoga research University, Bangalore ) at the helm.

    Has “Synergy ” been contacted ?

    Sudha

  18. Manu..Vyas. Says:

    First and formost thing for we Hindus to do is to get deep into the root cause behind the conversion of Hindu into other religions ,mainly christian and Islam.

    Why do we have cast diferences like Brahmins,Xatriyas,Vaishyas,and Khsudras.How our low cast i.eKshudras are treated mainly in rural araes where there exist segregation ,day in day out in all fields of life. Hatred is thus created amongst our own people!! What MotherTheresa has done? Can we find any such institution wherein these so called low cast people are uplifted byrendering such excellent services.Crorers of Ruppees are wasted in building temples through out the world but what we are doing for these poor people?Swamii Sachidanand is rightly and repeatedly drawing our attention to these deep rooted orhodox segregating ideals. Our low cast and poor Hindus are being brainwashed.They should be attacked before there activities reach to its extreem level.

    Manu Vyas.

  19. Narottam Jepal Says:

    Dear All.

    Dharam ane Adhyatam ni vato karnaro Hindu Dharam emni Sankuchitata nahi chhode tyan sudhi Dharmantaran ne Protsahan Maltu rehse.. Jya sudhi Gyanti, Varn, Bhed vagere jeva shabdo hindu ni dictionary ma raheshe tya sudhi Dharam-Parivartan Jaruri chhee.. VHP and Bajrang Dal political chhe ane sala badha chhor ane Badmas chhe.. Hijdani aulado chhe.. Nabla par dadagiri etle su…

    Ram Mandir na naame loko ne ullu samajnar..!

    Je Dharam Mandir ma aavava deto nathi.. Je Dharam Roti nathi aapto.. Je dharam Bakwas vaato kare chhe te Dharam ne have kachdayela loko tarchhode chhe tyare Kahevata Baudhiko ni Ungh Haram Thai Gai…

    Koi Ne Kai Problem hoy to mane reply kare…

    Narottam Jepal
    narottam_jepal@rediffmail.com

  20. uttam Says:

    stop them as early as possible other wise within few years seprate christian states create like nagaland,mizoram,meghalay,arrange paralle program to educate adivasi people,gave them money provide free hindu education every sunday.built maximum hidu temples in adivasi region,give right to handle mandir. give hindu namelike mahesh,naresh laxmi instead like tradional name,ever hindu sangathan visit every christian villages try to give knowledge how they(missinory) making a full them.

  21. PRAVIN SHAH Says:

    I APPRICIATE YOUR BRAVE JOURNALISM.I THINK HINDUS NEED TO BE CONVERTED TO HINDUISM.MOST OF HINDUS TODAY ARE ACCIDENTAL HINDUS.ONLY TEMPLE GOING WILL NOT WORK.MAJORITY CHRISTIANS ATTEND SUNDAY SERVICE AT THE CHURCH.IF 5% OF US CAN COMMIT TO SPEND AN HOUR EVERY SUNDAY OUT OF DEVOTION TO GOD i.e. SWADHYAY ,RESULTS WILL BE LIKE MIRCLE.THIS I HAVE OBSERVED IN INDIA ,USA & TRINIDAD

  22. jignesh patel Says:

    for all the things we are also responsoble ,from 1947 to till now we are also not go their to help villeges people(adivashi),and when now they change the religious,we ask that its worng.I know its really wrong but nothing will happen overtheir ,,,in my opinion hindi sangathan wants to make two teams ,one team help the people and the another team will kill the people who tries to change the religious (what ever if he is forigner or indian must kill them)….for that i know they want money power ,,hear in foreign countries we have toomany people is ready to give money if you use it in proper way,,,and if we dont do this may be after our son or daughter goes in church,,,and our temple are waoting for us,,,,,,

  23. Bharat Panchal Says:

    Britesh rualover in India and still doing in our poor village . christianity sprading as a rochies in our India , So we need to walkup and save our Hindu dharma . Pujia Pramukh swami bapa and his santo doing vicharan and janjagruti achetivity we all need to joint and save our hindustan

  24. One Human, One Hindu Says:

    My first point:
    What you did to solve this problem?
    The writter of this article did his job to publish this and let people know the truth. What we did? Read the article, watched the video, share our thoughts, and after few days –
    Day to Day life.
    Same thing happened in Bombay bomb blast. Terrorist killed more than 200 people, little oppose to terrorist, goverenment, after few days –
    Day to Day life.
    Same thing happened to Gandhinagar Akshardham. Terrorist killed innocent poeple, little oppose from public to terrorist, government, after few days – Day to Day.

    Are we customed to this life?
    What we need to do as individual or as a group to solve this problems? Lets discuss.

  25. Naimesh Says:

    what could be done?
    lats talk ,suggestion,opinion!
    Thanks

  26. Hindu Says:

    Muslims are also trying to do ‘Dharmantar’. Muslim boys FOOLS Hindu Girl and get married without that girl’s parent’s knowledge. This way, we Hindu are loosing our intelligent future generation. So PARENTS, AWAKE!!! Track your girls’ cell phones, where she goes, whom she meets? If you won’t keep track of her, you will loose her…and we Hindu will also loose our valuble future mother…. So SAVE Our Daughters!!!!!!!!!!

  27. One Human, One Hindu Says:

    Second point:
    Muslim boys try to marry Hindu girl so that we loose future Hindu children.
    Sometimes, Hindu girl realizes that this is wrong place for her as Muslim merries other girls, by that time it’s too late to return back.

    Hindu needs to be awake from such incidents also.

  28. sailesh patel Says:

    All this occurs because hindus have no unity amongst themselves. Remember what Swami Vivekanand said “If A Hindu girls marries a christian or a muslim, Do no think that Hindus lost one hindu but Hindus had gained an enemy” Many decades later this statement still hold to be true. The hindus of India need to get their heads out of their rear ends and realise what is happening. Ask your government to remove the unjust laws that allows muslime to have more then one wife and subsidise for Haj. Unless and until you all wake up as usual nothing will happen. You will all talk and talk then try to be a philisophers, explaining to everyone what all the hindu organizations should do but in the end you will do NOTHING. Shame on you!!!!

  29. A Proud Hindu! Says:

    Interesting feedbacks form many readers!

    I also agree with Sailesh Patel’s comments…”The Hindus of India need to get their heads out of their rear ends and realize what is happening. Ask your government to remove the unjust laws that allows Muslim to have more then one wife and subsidies for Hajj. Unless and until you all wake up nothing will happen. You will all talk and talk then try to be a philosopher, explaining to everyone what all the Hindu organizations should do but in the end you will do NOTHING. Shame on you!!!!” Well said!

    It is interesting to see that many of the educated Hindus leave Hindustan to chase Dollars, Pounds, etc. and yet they wonder about Hindustan. Why? If you want to fix a problem, become a part of it, and then try to fix it.

    How many of you have done anything for India or Hindus? Did anyone of your marry a poor uneducated Hindu girl? When time came to marry someone, you looked at her cast, village, wealth, etc. When your ethics were questioned, you looked for all the excuses in the world or blamed your parents for it. Hindus discriminate Hindus (in the name of cast) more than anyone else. WE HINDUS do not get alone with other Hindus, how can you blame others. I have seen it all so please do not try to convince me!
    Instead of building temples, build schools/colleges and educate poor Hindus. Support them by providing employments (not a handout) so they come out of poverty, marry them, welcome them in your life/family and/or show your support. Every time you visit Hindustan, plan on doing some community work for a week with your children (again, do not give out money, show them the good use of money)…build Hinduism in your children. Going to a temple does not make you a Hindu! Unfortunately, today’s POOJARIES and trustees have made mockery of the concept of a Temple, even Gods are crying!

    Look at history, Hindus were ruled by Muslims and then by Christians. Anyone wonder why? Hindus are easy to exploit. One can easily turn a Hindu against another Hindu…well, this is a very touchy issue and I can go on and on.

    In any case, my apology to those whom I offended, but there is lot to think about what’s at stake!

  30. proud hindu! proud of what? Says:

    Proud of this head line “New Jersey Gujarat Samaj holds a big christmas party and invites the mayor” NJ Gujarat samaj are idiots.
    The proud hindu suggests not building temples “how did they sustain hinduism in Trinidad, Africa, UK, USA .. It is with temples. It is Hindus like you you have to heads up you rear ends. How do you teach hinduism without temples to your children?… Muslims biuld Mosques all over India and Christians build churches all over India. You are a part of the problem not part of the solution. You only need to apologise for being a moron. The only thing hindus can take pride in is of hindu organizations that promote the hindu culture across the globe and more importantly living the hindu way of life, ie: NO (Alcohol,meat, violance etc…) but instead Hindus inside and outside of India are trying to be western and somehow feel it is a mordern thing to do.. Like S.P stated “GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR REAR END”

  31. rakhal saha Says:

    THREE SEMITIC RELIGIONS PROFESS DIVISION IN HUMANITY AND DO NOT TOLERATE ANY OTHER RELIGION OTHER THAN THEIR OWN. THEY HAVE A GREAT FEAR OF BEING EXTINCT AND THAT IS WHY THEY TRY CONVERT PEOPLE INTO THEIR FAITH — THEY ARE ONLY FAITHS — BLIND FAITH — NO LOGIC AND NO SPIRITYALITY AND NONE OF SCIENCE WHICH WE HAVE IN OUR SANATAN DHARMA.
    THESE THREE RELIGIONS WERE BORN IN A LATER STAGE IN COMPARISON TO OUR SANATAN DHARMA WHICH HAS NO BEGINNING ANG CERTAINLY WILL HAVE NO ENDING. BUT THE TRUTH IS IF SOMETHING IS BORN IT HAS TO DIE AND SURELY THESE THREE SEMITIC RELIGIONS — WHICH WERE BORN OUT OF GRAVE VIOLENCE — ONE DAY THEY HAVE TO DIE!!
    BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE SIT IDLE BY. WE HAVE TO TAKE LESSON FROM SRI KRISHNA’S LESSON TO ARJUNA AND STRIVE TO PROTECT OUR DHARMA KEEPING IN MING IF WE PROTECT DHARMA , DHARMA WILL PROTECT US!!

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